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Musterseed:
1 Corth.15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
All means All
Amen to that brothers and sisters
indianabob:
Hi Wanda,
Just as we on the forum are tempted to share our faith with family and friends who don't understand and are not interested in changing.
The "christian folks" in Eastern nations are hated by the Hindu or Muslim religious who become irritated and fearful of disturbance in their familiar cultures when Christians proselytize among their young adults and children and turn their children against them.
People don't like changes that they do not understand and they resent traitors to their culture that has been in place for their whole lives.
In a similar manner we in small town America don't appreciate it when Muslims try to get Sharia law established in our Judaeo/Christian cities.
WE like and are comfortable with the culture we are accustomed to.
So for whatever reason in their hearts or in the reasoning of their leadership Christians are courting trouble when they "push" their religion upon others who don't want to hear it. Especially when they work together to make successful lives while others are poor and suffering.
When Jesus commanded the apostles to go out and preach the good news in foreign nations where Jewish believers lived, weren't they preaching mainly to Jews who already knew the scriptures? Perhaps we should limit our preaching to folks who are interested and move on if they show no interest. Dan 2:21, Romans 13:1-4
I have read that when Iraq was controlled by Saddam Hussein there was no trouble with Coptic Christians because he prevented it as long as they didn't criticize his government. He was busy fighting Iran's government.
So my question is, are we required by scripture to proselytize aggressively in order to please God?
Are we required to criticize the government when God allows and upholds the powers that exist?
The organized church denominations seem to want growth and popularity and encourage their members to bring in new members.
Don't you just love it when strangers knock on your door to invite you to "know Jesus" and make a donation?
On the other hand perhaps God desires to show the world how cruel they are and uses their cruel acts to make His point.
Let's hear from the moderators,
Indiana bob
--- Quote from: Wanda on April 04, 2018, 07:36:03 PM ---Pamela shared this.
News week
More Christion persecution and genoside than any time in history.
http://www.newsweek.com/christian-persecution-genocide-worse-ever-770462
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Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on April 03, 2018, 06:19:03 PM ---I agree Dennis. In most of the Middle East and Muslim countries, if you come in the name of Jesus Christ, you are asking to be killed.
And they have been called.
But remember the parable of the wheat and tares. An enemy (Satan) came and planted the tares among the good seed. The tares are from their father Satan. Only at the harvest will the good seed be gathered into the barn and the tares burned. Every parable speaks of the Many and the Elect Few.
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This just came to mind John:
Php 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Wanda:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on April 05, 2018, 09:30:35 PM ---Let's not ever forget that every human's works are judged, whether they be good works (to be refined) or bad works (to be burned). There is NO BAD NEWS in the end. It's all according to God's order and timing, but in the end, God will be all in all.
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Thanks for reminding us Dave.
Such perfection of love and joy, can only be imagined now, but it is a wonderous truth he has given us to understand, and the reason I now feel, being a spiritual being, is a more natural state of existence than this fleshly one.
Wanda:
--- Quote from: indianabob on April 05, 2018, 11:15:37 PM ---
Hi Wanda,
Just as we on the forum are tempted to share our faith with family and friends who don't understand and are not interested in changing.
The "christian folks" in Eastern nations are hated by the Hindu or Muslim religious who become irritated and fearful of disturbance in their familiar cultures when Christians proselytize among their young adults and children and turn their children against them.
People don't like changes that they do not understand and they resent traitors to their culture that has been in place for their whole lives.
In a similar manner we in small town America don't appreciate it when Muslims try to get Sharia law established in our Judaeo/Christian cities.
WE like and are comfortable with the culture we are accustomed to.
So for whatever reason in their hearts or in the reasoning of their leadership Christians are courting trouble when they "push" their religion upon others who don't want to hear it. Especially when they work together to make successful lives while others are poor and suffering.
When Jesus commanded the apostles to go out and preach the good news in foreign nations where Jewish believers lived, weren't they preaching mainly to Jews who already knew the scriptures? Perhaps we should limit our preaching to folks who are interested and move on if they show no interest. Dan 2:21, Romans 13:1-4
I have read that when Iraq was controlled by Saddam Hussein there was no trouble with Coptic Christians because he prevented it as long as they didn't criticize his government. He was busy fighting Iran's government.
So my question is, are we required by scripture to proselytize aggressively in order to please God?
Are we required to criticize the government when God allows and upholds the powers that exist?
The organized church denominations seem to want growth and popularity and encourage their members to bring in new members.
Don't you just love it when strangers knock on your door to invite you to "know Jesus" and make a donation?
On the other hand perhaps God desires to show the world how cruel they are and uses their cruel acts to make His point.
Let's hear from the moderators,
Indiana bob
--- Quote from: Wanda on April 04, 2018, 07:36:03 PM ---Pamela shared this.
News week
More Christion persecution and genoside than any time in history.
http://www.newsweek.com/christian-persecution-genocide-worse-ever-770462
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Hi Bob,
I believe we should be aware and stay watchful, but certainly not be concerned with doing Jesus's job, which is saving others.
Ray wrote an excellent paper on this very thing.
https://bible-truths.com/souls.htm
Everything that's happening in this world, having to do with religeons, is under the direct will of the Father, and the specifics behind the persecution of others, is of little importace, in the the grand things awaiting us. It's important that we hold fast to the faith and do our best to push the disconcerting, disturbing, negative realities out of the way, placing our hope in the higher purpose.
All of this insanity around us is about one thing.
JESUS, and his purpose in EVERYTHING for our ultimate salvation and reconciliation to the FATHER. Just as Jesus and the Father are ONE, we all will be one, for he will be ALL in ALL.
May God bless us all with the faith to endure.
1 Peter 1:3-6
3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 In all this you greatly rejoice,though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials.
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