> General Discussions
First People
Dave in Tenn:
To add to Bob's comments and scripture, the Adam in my bible left the garden in a higher spiritual condition than he entered it. There is no "fall of man" and no "fallen humanity", though men do fall.
Prune Soleiado:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on July 14, 2018, 03:43:30 AM ---To add to Bob's comments and scripture, the Adam in my bible left the garden in a higher spiritual condition than he entered it. There is no "fall of man" and no "fallen humanity", though men do fall.
--- End quote ---
Amen! 😁
Porter:
--- Quote from: seaofglass on July 13, 2018, 07:23:02 PM ---
Nevertheless you have to contend with the below Scripture and if you don't believe there was only one first man name Adam then you don't believe in the word of God. I show you a scripture when it said Adam was the first man, yet how many of you will believe what it said? Where is the scripture Adam was not the first man? Personal interjection are not justified.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Sea Of Glass
--- End quote ---
You need a second witness to prove the "only" part of your statement as 1Co 15:45 does not interpret itself. Besides, that is not even the spiritual jist of it even if Adam really were the first human/man ever.
Paul gives a bunch of spiritual witnesses as to what he is talking about in those passages surrounding that particular verse you quoted. Sorry, but I'm not seeing the word "only" in that verse, but like Ray I do see 666 followed by 777.
Why are you so hung up on the physical aspect of it all when it will soon pass away? Milk is for babies, have some meat. 8)
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption , and this mortal (First Man Adam) must put on immortality (Last Adam).
Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man (First Man Adam), which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man (Last Adam), which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
So was there more than one "first man Adam"? Yes according to Scripture all of humanity is a "first man Adam".
Ecc 3:18 I said in my heart:It is on account of the sons of humanity That the One, Elohim, seeks to manifest them And to show them that they themselves are beasts.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has a mind calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is the number of mankind, and its number is six hundred sixty-six.
Forgive me if it seems like I'm preaching at you, but when you accuse brothers and sisters of not believing the Word of God, you should really look at yourself first. I came here because the literal, physical preaching of Christianity wasn't cutting it and only holding me back from the spiritual truth I would come to love and cherish above all else.
If I have completely misunderstood you I'm sorry. Please explain to me how your statement is beneficial to me and my spiritual growth, because it's very possible I may just be missing it completely.
seaofglass:
There are many topic of discussion that do not have “two witnesses” such as “it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: “ Does a lack of a 2nd witness denies this scripture? Where is ONE scripture that said there was more than I creation??
Does Bob's lack of two witness of Scriptures undermines his statement “the Adam in my bible left the garden in a higher spiritual condition than he entered it. There is no "fall of man" and no "fallen humanity", though men do fall.” No this is a statement out of spiritual growth I agree with and need no Scriptures to see it.
It said “and Adam knew his wife” not found a wife. And it all happened in “in process of time”. 130 years later Eve had Seth. Are we to presume nothing happen in between because there is no scripture witnesses? I am sure Eve was a hot looking babe with curves Adam just couldn’t resist which meant many bambinos and those bambinos had many other bambinos.! Why cause that how God made us men, attracted to curves and he put a force in us to be fruitful and multiply and thus procreate which few men can resist. Do any one then thinks that between Cain and Able growth that Adam and Even did not “know” each other especially on a full moon and no TV? And puberty at 12 to 15 years is a monstrous force to content with for boys. In some countries 15 years old is standard for a female to have babies. “Be fruitful and multiply” was a command from God not “Oh honey Adam can we just have 3 children?” Humor intended.
Ray was a great man use by God and now its our turn to grow with what Ray left and go beyond that. After four years of research to understand, because God moved me to pray about this not that I wanted a pass time of something to do, I wrote a small book on the crooked scheme of the elite and how they have being and are robbing the entire world and a PDF is available to anyone free of charge [removed].
From the forbidden fruit to this present day, the time of the reveling of the sons of God is closing in as the end of the gentile rule closes:
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Will these “sons of God” die once and then be judged?” No these sons of God will see the beast within first and I tell you as Ray did when you see the beast within, you will know and your life will never be the same again. Where did Cain get his wife? I am past this long time ago, I take no offense and I speak in general not pointing the finger at one person cause there are three fingers pointing back at you when you do this. Over 60 now don’t have time.
If Ray’s response to me was “if you mean “man” than you have a point” meant a lot to me BUT it did not make me self righteous as I can not match his wits. God dragged me to Ray’s writing and believe me it was not a pleasant thing and all I want to do is stay close to the trunk of the tree, the tree of life.
Be blessed and strive for the faith, we are going to need cause we are in for bad weather.
Benelyon
Sea Of Glass
indianabob:
Hello Dennis,
Thanks for the helpful suggestion.
Personal info has been modified or deleted.
Indiana Bob :)
Hi Seaofglass,
Tried writing to your email address and was rejected.
Maybe I'm not understanding how it works with aol.com
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version