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Wanda:
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I very much enjoyed your post Porter.
I 've endured great tribulation in my life and at times I felt I was bordering on the state of insanity, but by the mercy and purpose of God's will for me, by cutting those days short I was spared that horror.
I can now say I'm blessed to have experienced such tribulation because on the other side of it I was given so much more. I don't know the tribulation that yet awaits me, but I feel confident I will survive it, through life or death.
Dennis Vogel:
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We have similar understanding.
O. K. but after the great war who will remain alive and mortal to be governed?
Will there be a remnant?
I'm sure that the world's banks will be kaput and their leaders removed,
but if all the means of business and production of food is gone how will people survive?
Inquiring minds would like to know...
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If I'm understanding Isaiah 65:17-25 there will be people alive when and after Jesus returns Bob. I don't see an instant change into perfection as some might, but an ongoing process. I used to wonder why Satan was being confined if no one was alive to temp and deceive.
As for food, how do you feel about manna☺
Seriously, I really haven't ever given that much thought.
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Wanda is correct.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
This proves those remaining are not instantly changed into perfection. Else Christ would have to reign just for an instant.
Wanda:
--- Quote ---1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
This proves those remaining are not instantly changed into perfection. Else Christ would have to reign just for an instant.
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It's because of this scriptural truth, I must question the timeline many hold fast to on the second resurrection. From verse 12 which is after this great battle, where God devours them, we can see the dead standing before God for judgement. If this is the order of things to come then I must contend the second resurrection occurs at the end of the thousand years, otherwise I am left with scriptural contradictions.
Rev 20 KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
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12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Now he has truly conquered all of his enemies.
1 Cor
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
In addition, if the resurrection happened at the beginning of the next age, it really makes no sense, to me anyway, why God would let Saten loose to temp those he had resurrected, judged and made Righteous at the white thrown.
Dennis Vogel:
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
This verse is spurious and does not belong in the scriptures.
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,6638.msg53239.html#msg53239
Wanda:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on December 15, 2018, 03:30:45 PM ---Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
This verse is spurious and does not belong in the scriptures.
https://bible-truths.com/forums/index.php/topic,6638.msg53239.html#msg53239
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Yes, and that's precisely why I didn't include it.
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