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End Time Prophecies
Wanda:
--- Quote ---Wanda, I suppose I am a little less convinced that "babylon the great" has fallen in us, from some (not all) of the responses in this thread. And it seems that some have read nothing but the towers paper.
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I've read all of Ray's papers some more than others, as the spirit moves. As for Babylon the great falling in us,. I see it has begun to crumble within me, but I suspect it has a ways to go yet. Maybe that's what we're seeing in the world right now, Babylon is beginning to crumble but has a way to go before it actually falls. We know God will reveal what he reveals, no matter what any of us may think.
I sometimes wonder if there are others, not here among us, that have overcome, and if so, perhaps God's work is complete or near completion in that regard. I rarely even consider being one of God's chosen myself, but if I am, no one will be more shocked than me.
--- Quote ---Specifically, Peter wrote:
2Pe 1:19 And we are having the prophetic word more confirmed, which you, doing ideally, are heeding (as to a lamp appearing in a dingy place, till the day should be breaking and the morning star should be rising) in your hearts,
2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation."
Well, are "we knowing this?" Really?
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Perhaps not,. I'll give it carefull consideration.
I do know that reading God's word is not the same as hearing it. It's not the word to any of us until, after “eating” it, whereby the holy spirit turns it from flesh to spirit, from words on a page to revelation in the heart.
AwesomeSavior:
I know you all are aware of what has happened in California within the last several days, with 2 major earthquakes striking within 48 hours of each other. When was the last time those set of circumstances happened? How fortunate for them that neither one of those quakes struck a major population center! Scripture has both the natural application, which the many can understand, and the spiritual application, which only God''s Elect can understand, and so here are the shortened version of those witnesses:
"...earthquakes in divers places..." (Matthew 24:7 and Mark 13:8 and Luke 21:11)
Musterseed:
There were two here in Canada off the coast of British Columbia also at the day.
Re. California quake , it was nice to here the fire chief or whoever that was ,say,
“ Only by the grace of God, there were no casualties.”
In Rays book he writes, quote, “God have mercy upon our stupid and foolish hearts for
ever believing that your OWN CREATION could wreck and destroy your own creation.
NOW A FEW BIBLICAL EXAMPLES OF WHAT GOD CAUSES
EARTHQUAKES
FLOODS
PLAGUES AND DISEASE
POVERTY
FAMINE
AFFLICTIONS
THE SWORD
WAR
DESTRUCTION
PESTILENCE
HAIL
ICE, COLD, AND FROST
KILLING,SLAUGHTER,
CALAMITY
WIND
GRIEF
FIRE,
FOREST FIRES
WILD BEASTS
EVIL
AND RAY GIVES SCRIPTURE AND VERSE ON EACH ONE.
ANOTHER QUOTE AT THE END OF THIS LIST FROM RAY
“ DO YOU COMPREHEND WHAT YOU HAVE READ? DO YOU REALLY? WELL IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET , LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR.THINGS DONT JUST HAPPEN ON THIS EARTH OR IN THE UNIVERSE;
RATHER GOD MAKES THEM HAPPEN.HE CAUSES THEM TO HAPPEN , HE BRINGS THEM ABOUT.
,,,,,,,,,according to the purpose of Him [God] Who works) Greek aiorist tense, past present and
future) ALL things after the council of His own will. EPH.1:11
I listened to the audio, End time prophecy part 2 , in keeping with the theme of this thread.
It answered many questions I had been pondering. Also I will give a plug for Rays book.
THE LAKE OF FIRE, It’s Awesome. Either I missed a lot from reading it online or there
are many new things added.
God Bless all of you
In Christ , Pamela
PS, didnt know how to stop the underline thingy , it was supposed to be only under the word
Makes. 🥴❤️
indianabob:
Good comment Dennis,
I have a question about that scripture that one member mentioned to me.
Does that scripture say or attempt to say that "only the elect will be saved"?
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Or rather does it say that for the elect's sake, "some or a part of humanity will be saved alive by Jesus coming to intervene"?
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I would appreciate some clarification on that point...
Will there be a residue of fleshly humans remaining on the planet to occupy it during Jesus' reign?
Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on July 06, 2019, 03:44:38 PM ---People in every generation believe they are living in the end times. Except now this can come true:
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Even a limited nuclear exchange between countries like India and Pakistan could be enough to kill every human being on the planet (Chernobyl radiation is still circulating the earth).
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Dennis Vogel:
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Two terms here interest me: Hearing and diverse places.
Just a few hundred years ago it took months for news to travel a few thousand miles and most of the news from diverse places was never heard.
But now we can hear about anything on the planet in a few seconds. This is directed to this age IMO.
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