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Did God Ever Experience Anything Bad?
Wanda:
Did God ever experience anything bad to become perfect? Ray made this point in part 2 of the videos... Why Didn't God Just Make us All Like Jesus?
If you haven't listened to these yet, I think you're missing out.
Part 1
https://youtu.be/086Vs1YfaEo
Part 2
https://youtu.be/QRfv2MHM4Z8
I think our creator had to have experienced pain in the birthing of wisdom, how else could he have known what would be necessary for us to become like him. As Ray said, "God will be our daddy". It's all so connected and personal when you think about it. It's BIG!
Does anyone know if this was from one of the coventions or bible studies, because the way Ray ended part 2 it seemed he might have continued this talk somewhere?
Rene:
--- Quote from: Wanda on October 26, 2018, 03:05:51 PM ---
Does anyone know if this was from one of the coventions or bible studies, because the way Ray ended part 2 it seemed he might have continued this talk somewhere?
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Hi Wanda,
This is from the Nashville Conference held May 21-22, 2007. Here are the links to the entire bible conference:
May 21-22 2007 Nashville
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_1.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_2.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_3.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_4.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_5.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_6.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_7A.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_7B.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Nashville07_8.mp3
Wanda:
Thank you Rene. I've listened to these before, but I totally missed the importance of the message Ray was sharing. Just proves you can never here these spiritual gifts Ray left us with, to much.
yello62:
i had come to a similar conclusion some time back. suffering is so much a part of the development of His children, how could He not know what it is?
i enjoyed these very much.
indianabob:
Hi folks,
I frankly do not see why it seems necessary for God to learn from His so called experiences.
Example; I have a beaker of water and another beaker of Sodium Hydroxide.
They are just laying there on the work bench and I'm wondering what will happen if I mix them??
So I pour the Sodium into the beaker of water and there is an exothermic reaction with the Sodium dissolving into solution in the water and the water becoming very hot. How interesting! I did not know that. However I did not make a mistake. I was experimenting and I learned a valuable lesson, but then I'm not God and I'm not even a qualified chemist. A chemist would know what was going to happen before the experiment took place, because the experiment was a teaching lesson for other observers.
When God puts humans in an experimental situation to see what they will do or how they would react it is NOT so that God can learn.
It is so that the human can learn what God already knew; because God invented the experiment and all of the conditions surrounding it. God even invented our minds and programmed them to see, hear, smell, think etc. with our God given senses. God knows what pain is because it is simply the stimulation of nerve endings that feed back into the mind's operational program and warn us to stop or react in a preconceived manner.
God didn't put Adam on the earth without a means of communication and then wait to see if Adam would develop speech patterns that God could use to teach Adam. NO, God installed the operational program in Adams mind according to God's perfect will and purpose.
God did not have to be a woman giving birth to know intimately what the experience would feel like to the woman. All of her feelings, both physical and emotional are programmed into her body and her psyche. All have a predetermined purpose and goal.
Likewise God, from the beginning knew exactly how to use His power to produce a perfect result for the intended purpose. God is not a man that He should need to practice to become perfect/complete.
Comments please, Indiana Bob
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