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Persecution
Dave in Tenn:
Outside of the Lord Jesus, the two clearest new testament biblical accounts of persecution are Stephen and Saul/Paul. The latter of those was among the persecutors of the former before the Lord changed him. In both cases, the persecutions came from the religiously powerful. I'm betting that in many of our lives, we have some of "both" in our pasts, if not our presents. Wanda does.
Nelson Boils:
Hi Wanda,
I wasn't directing my post to you.That wouldn't be fair from me as I don't know you nor what you going through.It was just food for thought for anyone who may have thought as I did,which was that the walk was relatively easy.But now I am seeing flames.
I think at times I put myself under pressure.I read Scripture and see the Apostles dying,beaten and compare that to myself,which doesn't happen.Different times perhaps?Probably.But the Word doesn't change.During our times,perhaps many of us will not be physically beaten due to the freedom some of our countries give us,but then again,have i spoken too soon?Only God knows what tomorrow holds,and if any of us knew what tomorrow holds for us,we would probably not wanna live or go through that.
I mean who here can say they are hated because of what they believe?
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: Rolihlahla on October 01, 2019, 02:57:51 PM ---I mean who here can say they are hated because of what they believe?
--- End quote ---
In a way, that kind of misses the point. Christians today are most often hated because of what other people believe. Sure, some are hated because they behave badly and contrarily to what they say they believe--but that in itself assumes some "love" for the message and for Christ in general. Those two are the visible and obvious "persecutions" going on in the world today.
The "invisible" persecution happens in the pews from the pulpit.
What I believe doesn't arm me to hate anybody...period. And (so far, at least) expressing what I believe doesn't raise hatred in any others except for some "Christians".
Lay aside for a moment church history on martyrs. Read what God inspired into scripture about The Lord Jesus, Stephen and Saul/Paul. Where did it come from? What did it lead to? How did the Lord Jesus and Paul "survive"/thrive? One thing is certain--you will understand what you are supposed to understand when you do.
lareli:
Do we persecute ourselves? Worse than anyone else could?
Musterseed:
When you hear the word persecution,it is automatically considered to be of religious or political
origin. Like it is something that is done to someone’s else but nothing you have done yourself.
Aren’ t we all persecuters, evil hearted beasts and ONLY BY THE GRACE( GRACING) OF GOD’s
FIRE AND BRIMSTONE are we blessed to be cleansed and purged of this abomination of
free will ,self purification, arrogance , pride, lust and anger? We are children of wrath,( anger) not
God’s wrath, our own. Thank God for His mercy on us and eventually all mankind.
Quote from Ray “ The man of sin, son of perdition is UNIVERSAL and found in ALL MANKIND.
THAT IS HOW SATAN DECEIVES THE WHOLE WORLD.
In Christ
Pamela
Much Love❤️
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