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Persecution
Doug:
Thanks everyone for your responses. It has actually been very helpful in my understanding.
Doug
ralph:
Believe me when I tell you that persecution is alive and well. One doesn't have to be stoned or thrown in prison to experience persecution. I have experienced much persecution in my life mostly from friends and family members, but also from strangers. I say this not to boast as if I am something special, but to witness to the fact that it exists. All you need to do is comment on any video that is preaching about the existence of Hell. Leave a truthful comment and they will attack and condemn you for it. The closer you are with Christ, the more it will show in your every day life and people will begin to despise you for it.
Heidi:
Email from Ray dating 2007:
Hello Ray:
Thank-you for the quick reply on my question.
I would like to ask you another question on the same subject.
If we as Truth believers , (and I consider myself to be blessed in the true knowledge of Gods Holy Scriptures-- thanks to you and my Lord&Savior, Jesus Christ) are not persecuted according to what scripture teaches , then, are you saying that we are not true followers of Christ?
Maybe I' am a little confused on what the word persecution means in a scriptural sense. I dearly love God and His Holy Word and would not have it any other way, but, people that are close to me and know how I feel about my beliefs do not persecute me for the knowledge that I have obtained concerning the truths of God.
Could you please elaborate a little more on this subject Ray?
Thank-You
Your brother in Christ,
Mark
Dear Mark:
I could, but I really don't have the time, and this is a no-brainer. The Scriptures tell us that:
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Look up the word "persecution" in any dictionary and then ask yourself if that definition is happening to you? If not, then you may not be"living godly in Christ Jesus." I knew a pastor/teacher who stated before his death (in his late seventies), how thankful he was that we live at a time where there is "NO RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION," and that he had never been persecuted for obeying God. Oh really? Everyone I have ever known who "lived godly in Christ Jesus" SUFFERED PERSECUTION. And I do believe that I can personally speak from experience in this matter myself. Maybe your time just hasn't come yet, or maybe your obedience and conversion is not showing. When it SHOWS, people will persecute you.
God be with you,
ralph:
Hello Heidi. Thanks for sharing Ray's email and for witnessing to the truth! God Bless.
Nelson Boils:
Hi,
Hello Brother Ray:
In your Lake of Fire series, (#3), you state that---
I can tell you on the authority of Jesus Christ, God's Word, and the Apostle Paul, that unless you are SUFFERING real PERSECUTION, you are NOT a follower of Jesus Christ nor are you living godly in Christ Jesus!
My question to you is-?
Does the affliction of persecution that the Scriptures speak of only come from the outwardly conduit of worldly man, or can said persecution be also from with-in ourselves, ie; what we all have to go through mentally in order to do our Fathers Will. I guess, if you will, a type of God inflicted, mental adjustment or better yet, a spiritual awakening to do the will of God.
Does persecution HAVE to be ONLY from the outside as opposed from within?
Thank-you Ray
God Bless YOU...
Best Regards;
Mark
Dear Mark:
No, as used in the Scriptures, persecution always comes from without from others,
not from within. Here is just one of many such examples: "If THEY have persecuted Me, THEY will also persecute you..." (John 15:20).
God be with you,
Ray
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