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Isaiah 57:1
Prune Soleiado:
Hello God’s Family 👋
I’m facing a problem with all translations made about Isaiah 57:1 because I believe in Ray’s inspired by God council: « PAY ATTENTION TO EVERY WORD ».
Do Strong’s Concordance numbers you can see beside all translated words really correspond to the exact Hebrew words that was written in the original manuscripts or do some words miss or were taken away in order for the translation to be clearer ?? (I wouldn’t see exactly why but I’m no professional translator so...)
But if Strong’s Concordance numbers correspond to the precise written words in original Hebrew manuscript, then I don’t see any negations when I translate every word, WORD FOR WORD.
I see something else. And weirdly it kinda makes sense, at least to me.
What about you BT Family?
Would you bear with me and read what I found when doing a verbatim translation according to the order and the only presence of the Strong’s Concordance numbers of Isaiah 57:1 ?
Here’s what I read: (Strong’s Concordance numbers between brackets)
« The righteous (6662) perished (6 8804), the servant (376) is establishing (7760 8802) the heart (3820); the mortal man (582) merciful [or « shameful »] (2617) is being gathered (622 8737), he is being made intelligent (995 8688).
In the presence (6440) of evil (07451), the righteous (6662) is gathered (622 8738). »
I really don’t mean to add or take away any words from God’s Word.
It’s just a word for word translation.
I took into account conjugation, which is not the case in most of translations I saw for this verse.
I also translated nouns according to Strong’s definitions, I didn’t invented it. And I only added words like « the » or « of » just for a little clarity in the formulation.
Please correct me if I’m wrong in any case, for I cannot read from now on the common and accepted by everyone translation because it never really meant anything to me, until I did this crazy translation which enlighten this verse so much more! At least for crazy me.. 🤗
Please, any specialist/inspired/easily much smarter person than me to help?
Michelle
indianabob:
Hi Prune,
Seems like it means that God takes (kills) the righteous early out of love for them that they don't suffer indignation with the unrighteous in the soon coming times of judgment.
Indiana bob
Prune Soleiado:
Hello Indiana bob
Here’s the known and established English translation of Isaiah 57:1 from KJV:
« The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come »
Not quite the same as what I read when translating word for word.
I agree with you, it seems like this verse is talking about a sort of rapture from the unrighteousness, if we only take in consideration the established translation.
But I see something else when you look at the verbatim translation where I see this:
Romans 6:7: « because anyone who has died has been set free from sin »
Romans 6:22
« But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eonian life »
Romans 7:6 « But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code »
I see the cleansing process in the House of God, the repentance of the elect ones. Not a rapture.
Rather the justification in action. We are being made ONE with Christ, in Christ, through trials, persecution.
1 Peter 4:17 « For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household »
Isaiah 57:1 seems IMO to tell us more about the process of death to sin , the repentance then the growing in Grace and intelligence, much more than simply a story of the righteous rapture in the middle of evil people which do not understand nor not pay attention to the righteous suffering.
Hope I’m clear enough...
Wanda:
Hi Michele 👋
To add to your thoughts.
Isa. 57:13 – When you cry out, let your collection [of idols] deliver you! The wind will carry all of them off, a breath will take them away. But whoever takes refuge in Me will inherit the land and possess My holy mountain.
Proverbs 14:32
The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death.
The righteous in God were swept away before the Babylon captivity. Isaiah suggests that many of the righteous will die mercifully, before the Babylonian invasion and therefore be spared the consequences of the nation's judgement.
I see a similarity here between these righteous ones, and the Elect who will be caught up to be with the the Lord, prior to his coming.
Wanda:
And one more.
Revelations 3:10
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
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