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The Overwhelming Desire to Live
Wanda:
nshan -
Ray spoke on this subject in the following videos. I think they might be more helpful than anything I could add.
Why Science and the Bible do not agree.
https://youtu.be/qh9qBUg8lVQ
Were Adam and Eve the Firstt Humans.
https://youtu.be/2AbrPxV1uQU
nshan:
Hey Wanda,
I will have a look but Ray states in Why God Loves You the following:
Have you ever meditated on this profound truth? WE ARE GOD'S KIN! I can trace my genealogy back to Joris Jansen De Rapalje, the first of four named families to settle Manhattan Island, New York in 1623. But that's barely 400 years. All of us one day will be able to trace our genealogy clear back to Adam and Eve and then to The Lord GOD ALMIGHTY the Creator of the universe and the Creator of the Human Race. This is not figurative language. This is not a metaphor. This is not spiritual symbolism. We really are of the kin, race, and genealogy of God Almighty!
Luke's gospel traces Jesus' genealogy through His mother Mary's father. Does that genealogy end with Adam and Eve? No it doesn't. Let's read it:
"Which was the son of Enos [Enoch], which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son OF GOD!"
Likewise, ALL of our genealogies will take us back through our parents, grand parents, great grandparents, etc., etc., until we come to our Truly GREAT Father, not Adam, but GOD! WE ARE ALL OF THE RACE OF GOD!
When a mother gives birth, she is reproducing herself; she is giving birth to someone like herself; she is producing a person in her own image and likeness; and hence this child is now of the mother's race, kin, genealogy, relatives, children, and family. In similar fashion God brought into existence humanity.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... So God created man in His Own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. (Gen. 1:26-27)
While it is true that we do not presently live together with God as a family, it is nevertheless, a fact that we are presently a member of God's family, kin, and race. And it's just a matter of time until we are all united as one Family of God:
etc.
Notice what I bolded above.
This scripture may be necessary:
Acts 17:26 (KJV) - And hath made of one blood [not many different bloods] all nations of men for to dwell all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed and the bounds of their habitation.
Eve could not be called the mother of all living if she actually wasn't. Though she was as we all are/were spiritually dead.
In the end, this genealogy stuff is really a stumbling block and doesn't matter as:
Gal 3:26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Not in faith of where your father's mother's father's mother's father was born though we are all His offspring (no seriously) and he is not far from any one of us.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: Wanda on May 22, 2019, 04:04:51 PM ---Why does man fight so hard to live, even enduring torturous medical treatments to stave off death?
Did God instill in us this overwhelming desire to live at any cost? I know it would be God's will if I did fight to live, if I were faced with a terminal illness, but I'm not so sure I would want to hang on to this carnal and imperfect body, knowing what I now do.
The religion I was a part of taught, our desire to live comes from the fact we were meant to live forever, and we instinctively know this. Or is the desire to live so strong because of the fear of the unknown? Even believers fight to live, so either they don't have faith, or they are fighting instinctively.
I have known people who believe when they die that's it, no after life what so ever, and they're okay with It, but I wonder how true that is. They do after all fight just as hard to live. Maybe they're not as okay with there being no life after death as they say., or they're not completely sure of what they believe.
Just something I've pondered from time to time.
--- End quote ---
This topic has gone a little astray. So back on course to some degree.
I just revised my favorite video on our YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/aQijG4zWXxw
This video shows what God went thru for us - You don't find this type of quality teaching on other sites.
Gen_3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
The hotel's P.A. system broke and they went to a Radio Shack and bought a cummy $50.00 speaker and microphone. It sounded awful. But I managed to get the sound in this revision somewhat better. And I added some captions.
Wanda:
Gen_3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
You nailed it Dennis! I knew there had to be a scriptural answer.
Good job on the sound, it's a big improvement.
Wanda:
Funny Dennis. I like how you placed the scripture in the middle of your post. No matter, it jumped off the screen like it was on fire.😁
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