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Judgement In This Age?
lareli:
--- Quote from: Wanda on July 18, 2019, 04:24:05 PM ---Another ever present question I have, why do people love their God of wrath and destruction so much, they'll run from truth that speaks to the love of God?
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I’ve encountered mostly the opposite.
Maybe it’s human nature for us to gravitate towards the extremes when we are in groups such as churches and ideologies.
Sounds like you’ve experienced mostly people on one end of the spectrum. The “wrath and punishment” side of the spectrum. I’ve experienced mostly people on the opposite side of the spectrum. The “God is love and whatever you do is forgiven no matter what-and God accepts you just as you are” side.
And both sides “love” their god because they (we) believe that God is on their (our) side.
Wanda:
--- Quote from: lareli on July 18, 2019, 05:45:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Wanda on July 18, 2019, 04:24:05 PM ---Another ever present question I have, why do people love their God of wrath and destruction so much, they'll run from truth that speaks to the love of God?
--- End quote ---
I’ve encountered mostly the opposite.
Maybe it’s human nature for us to gravitate towards the extremes when we are in groups such as churches and ideologies.
Sounds like you’ve experienced mostly people on one end of the spectrum. The “wrath and punishment” side of the spectrum. I’ve experienced mostly people on the opposite side of the spectrum. The “God is love and whatever you do is forgiven no matter what-and God accepts you just as you are” side.
And both sides “love” their god because they (we) believe that God is on their (our) side.
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I was speaking in generalities and from past experiences mostly, but have encountered this even with people here among us on this forum. I've personally never met anyone that didn't believe God was going to kill, or torture the unbelievers and some believing even the earth itself must be burned with fire to cleanse it. Even those who believe God loves us in spite of our sinfullness, hold on to some form of end time, or after death impending doom.
I take it you've never met a die hard hellfire believer. They will defend that doctrine as if their very life depends on it. I know it's out of fear mostly. That's why I think it's so important to emphasize the true love of our creator, whenever we can, especially on this forum, where others read our comments.
indianabob:
Well said Wanda and helpful for understanding.
When people are deceived by false understanding then by definition they do not know that they are believing error and deceived...unless and until God opens their mind to seek truth and gain true understanding. Even then there is the temptation to assume that they figured it out for themselves. That is why it takes many years to attain spiritual maturity.
Wanda:
For anyone not familiar with this subject on the judgement God has set aside for a future time.
Excerpt -
LOF III - GOD'S TWO AREAS AND ERAS OF JUDGMENT
https://bible-truths.com/lake3.html
And are these non-believers judged differently from believers who are "revealed, tried, salted and baptized IN FIRE?" Just HOW are these non-believers judged in the book of Revelation? How are the "...fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars..." JUDGED? Answer: "...In the lake WHICH BURNS WITH FIRE..." (Rev. 21:8)!
Is this "fire" in the book of Revelation DIFFERENT from the fire that tries the works of believers in the book of I Corinthians? NO. The word "fire" used in the four examples above concerning believers, is the SAME word "fire" used in the book of Revelation concerning non-believers:
Wanda:
I thought it might be helpful to share my own experience with God's corrective judgement in my life, as an example.
There are days, and moments when I'm blessed with his spirit to the point the joy of it reduces me to weeping. It is those times, I have more compassion and love for those not given this merciful gift, as well as being fortified in his strength to push on in overcoming. Unfortunately this is not something that fills me all the time, because there is always something more that needs correction and humbling.
It reminds me of a drug addicts first experience getting high. That feeling of euphoria they first experience, that keeps them coming back for more, but unlike a drug that isn't capable of giving that euphoric feeling for any extended time, God's spirit can and does. I keep coming back for more and more, because those times between correction are so blissful I can't resist the desire to have the experience over and over.
The more of my carnal mind is burned away the more I experience his spirit within me. Is this not the most loving and constructive way to instill in us a desire to change? It encourages me to want to change, and please my heavenly father, more than satisfying my own sinfull lusts Nothing has ever been more effective at making me hate my sins. I couldn't do this on my own, without his working in me to correct these destructive desires. There's nothing worse to me than falling short of what God desires of me. It seems I'm always repenting for something.
This is the God of love I've come to know. I guess you could call me a God junkie ;)
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