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Does Having No Free Will Mean?
Wanda:
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Thanks Rocco, I needed a bit of cheering up.☺
1 Corinthians 2:9. "But, as it is written, 'What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him'—"
lareli:
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--- Quote from: Wanda on September 04, 2019, 04:02:56 PM ---Does having no free will mean
We should never try to improve on something in our lives, and instead wait for God to do it or not do it for us?
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Whats the difference between us doing it and God doing it
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There is no difference, if we consider even our desire to improve on something is influenced by God.
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So then if there is no difference between us doing it or God doing it, then isn’t the question just “should I improve my life?”....
Why shouldn’t I? Not only why shouldn’t I, but won’t I be judged for not fixing something in my life if I have the power to fix it?
Wanda:
--- Quote ---Why shouldn't I? Not only why shouldn't I, but won't I be judged for not fixing something in my life if I have the power to fix it?
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If we could correct something and didn't, that would indicate a problem with obeying I think. Not being obedient to God's will would result in a negative outcome, which would be God's intended purpose for correction.
Through the obedience of the One shall all the many be made righteous.... Know ye not that ye are servants of obedience unto righteousness?' -- Rom.5:19; 6:16.
Rocco:
You mind if I rant? This helps me to write things out to get renewal of mind. The carnal mind cannot obey, we will not obey unless the Father grabs us by the scruff of the neck and drags us to Christ. Its a gift not a reward so we should always renounce the temptation to think we are chosen because we deserve it, we certainly are no better than these God hating, blasphemous infidels that we see everyday. God will judge them, we must love them in wisdom and humility. Being a part of the firstfruits is a burden the world knows nothing about and forgive me but sometimes I envy them for their ignorance. We have been brought to the Lord and forgetting whats behind we press forward. Paul said if there is no resurrection we (chosen) of all people are to be most pitied. Amen to that.
Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”
But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.
indianabob:
Hi Rocco,
Another good point to consider, thanks.
Also note that Paul was questioning whether they even believed in a resurrection.
I find today that many if not most "christian churches" do not emphasize a resurrection, believing rather that they go directly into the presence of God if they have lived a righteous life.
Without a resurrection much of the truth of Paul's teaching falls by the wayside. Why do we need to be resurrected they say?
Indiana Bob
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