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Another Possible Example of Where Proper Translation Meets Science
ZekeSr:
Neanderthals were fully human and, as of today, there have been hundreds of skeletons found everywhere from Britain to the Middle East. Many of their bones are recent enough to extract DNA and their genome has been fully sequenced. If you watched the video you know that the Nephilim in Genesis 6:4 were not giants. The word Nephilim is not properly translated. It is better translated “the fallen ones.” They have fallen in the sense that they no longer exist as a separate group, but they still exist as a genetic remnant in the bodies of many of us today. As I explained to someone, I looked up Nephilim and its roots in ancient Hebrew. The definition fits more precisely to Neanderthals than actual giants. Neanderthals were a form of human that we now know were every bit as intelligent as modern man and lived at the same time as modern humans for thousands of years before they disappeared. They were not tall, but had far more physical potential than the average homo sapien... extremely solid in structure and muscularity. They have been compared to elite modern-day power lifters. Think World’s Strongest Man Contest and you have an idea of the amount of genetic potential a pure Neanderthal would possess (without the steroids) if he were alive and training in the gym today.
I'm not sure what exactly I have inherited, but it sure ain't the strongman part. :)
Mike
Doug:
Pam your reply made my day! Probably will be chuckling for days.
My goddaughter did a dna test and she was partially Neanderthal. She does not work out but she is extremely strong.
Wanda:
Mike,
I think it's possible "The Fallen ones" is describing those who were ungodly, because they had turned away from him.
ZekeSr:
--- Quote from: Wanda on March 02, 2020, 07:24:02 PM ---Mike,
I think it's possible "The Fallen ones" is describing those who were ungodly, because they had turned away from him.
--- End quote ---
Wanda,
I can't say really yes or no. There could be a duality to it, as there often is. But my own opinion is that it's a reference to them being a people who died out as a race. For whatever reason, they "fell." But they still remain in the sense that they interbred with the genetic offspring of Adam and Eve. There were definitely humans on the earth before Adam and Eve.
Gen 6:4 There were Nephilim (Neanderthals???) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (genetic offspring of Adam and Eve???) came in unto the daughters of men (preexisting humans???), and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
I'm basing it on the context of time. They are being referenced as having been. And there is yet another species of human recently uncovered. The Denisovans are a new find with very little material discovered, but enough to once again connect some of their genetic material to certain present day people. This one is still on the drawing board, but they were definitely human, closely related to the Neanderthals, and there are indications that they were possibly even bigger.
Mike
nshan:
I thought nephilim meant tyrants and mighty ones not fallen as it would imply nephulim / nophelim from naphal, not nephilim, which would make a lot more sense. There are also strange teachings that carry on with the fallen angels fables that tie into this. Also I doubt Eve could be the mother of all living if there was more than one Adam. If there was more than one Adam then salvation really is only for a few and the scriptures contradict when they say things like that Adam was first formed etc. I'm beginning to understand more and more why Paul wrote to not focus on genealogies as not everyone has this knowledge nor would I like to break anyone's faith if they like these lineage shenanigans. I really don't think neanderthals = nephilim. I will have to look more into this since the scriptures are pretty bulletproof and Ray's old writings on Adam before he said multiple Adams made the most sense... at least to me.
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