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zander:
Here in the UK, many of us are watching intently on what is happening in the US.  It does indeed seem that the country is on the brink of civil war.  Look, I am someon who believes that the entire political system is Satanic and run by evil spirits who only want power.  I have no horses in this race but they will do everything they can to deny a re-election of Trump and I can see uprisings happening later this year.

Ultimately, with government tyranny seemingly on the horizon, how do you resist?  DO you allow people to forcibly remove you from society for not taking a vaccination for example?  Another thread on here talks of following government orders  - but if govt orders are telling you to poison yourself and others - are you really going to do it?

The world has changed in the blink of an eye since March.  I am now thinking about how to survive.  And I am not the only one, trust me.

lareli:

--- Quote from: indianabob on July 10, 2020, 12:28:56 AM ---Hi,
I was referring to people who at least believe that they are operating out of an indwelling spirit of God.
At the time Peter made his choice, caused choice, he was not yet having the holy spirit which came at Pentecost Yes, no?
I have always believed that Peter's example was given to us to teach a lesson about human weakness and later lessons were given to teach how the 12 conducted themselves under the influence of God's spirit.

Comments are welcome, Bob

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Bob we are all referring to people ‘who at least’ believe they are operating out of an indwelling of Gods spirit. Obviously. I can’t tell exactly what you’re implying perhaps you can clarify..

To answer your first question though..

What if not using lethal force to stop someone from killing your family affected your salvation.. has the spirit of God never used lethal force to protect His people?

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: zander on July 10, 2020, 08:04:52 PM ---Here in the UK, many of us are watching intently on what is happening in the US.  It does indeed seem that the country is on the brink of civil war.  Look, I am someon who believes that the entire political system is Satanic and run by evil spirits who only want power.  I have no horses in this race but they will do everything they can to deny a re-election of Trump and I can see uprisings happening later this year.

Ultimately, with government tyranny seemingly on the horizon, how do you resist?  DO you allow people to forcibly remove you from society for not taking a vaccination for example?  Another thread on here talks of following government orders  - but if govt orders are telling you to poison yourself and others - are you really going to do it?

The world has changed in the blink of an eye since March.  I am now thinking about how to survive.  And I am not the only one, trust me.

--- End quote ---

We have a rule here about NO Politics  - Everyone please adhere this rule.

Porter:
octoberose, I was strongly under the impression that the Saints of God are in tribulation now, and have been since Jesus walked the earth in the flesh. According to Ray, tribulation ends at the re-appearing of Christ, while at the same time, wrath begins at the re-appearing of Christ.

https://bible-truths.com/lake16-D4.htm

One other major point: Clearly this verse and others show that Christ returns " after the tribulation of those days." "But in those days, after the tribulation... shall He send His angels, and shall gather together His Elect..." (Mark 13:24 & 27). 

And Jesus is said to come in wrath:

    "...hide us from the face of Him that sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb: for the great day of His wrath is come..." (Rev. 6:16-17)

    "And the seventh angel sounded... [the seventh trump is the last trump, I Cor. 15:52] ...and Thy wrath is come..." (Rev. 11:18)

The days of "great tribulation" end at Christ's presence, and the day of "His wrath" begins at His presence. They are two separate and different events, and different judgments on different people for different purposes. If you have not seen or do not understand the absolute differences in Scripture between tribulation and affliction versus wrath and indignation, then be sure to read my ten-page section dealing with it in detail, in my paper "Exposing the Secret Rapture Theory."

Tribulation is almost exclusively administered to God's people. And just to remove any and all doubts concerning this, we will now cite every Scripture on tribulation in the entire Bible:

As to what I'd do in a situation like you've described? I haven't a clue, aside from praying for mercy for all those involved.

Porter:
Bob and lareli, isn't everyone saved eventually? It is judgment that stands between us and salvation am I right? What ever we do, right or wrong, we will be judged, everyone in their own order. 

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