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how to address Jesus in the resurrection
Wanda:
Thanks for that info Pamela, Ray's writings on these things helped me go places in mind I had never been.
Anthony, I can still remember the first time I read 1 Cor 15:51 and understood the mystery of it. WOW! I'm still in awe. Of course I can only speculate, but I think such a transformation would require a physical atomic change of matter itself. Hence being born of spirit. Has anyone here never thought about what was involved in the transformation of the spirit Jesus to the physical man?
AK4:
Wanda
Ikr. When I got the mystery of that first and God put it in my mind that it really clearly saying that there will be a generation of people who will never ever die (I pray to God to give me discernment in the simplest terms like "aye Father dumb it down for me") I was like whoa. Then many other scriptures started opening up to me on this subject and even how its possible Paul was able to come up with this line. I live by that 1 Cor 15:51 scripture with lots of hope.
So now Im pretty sensitive to seeing other scriptures that mention or allude to that one like this Matt 24:30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
I love it. And yes Ive thought about what that transformation will be like and with all the scientific stuff that will go along with it. It really is going to be something awesome to behold and study.
Wanda:
Anthony, I don't think my question was clear. We all know Jesus had to undergo a spiratual transformation after death and resurrection, but he first underwent a transformation from spirit to flesh. Thinking on this is what led me to seeing the mystery in 1 Cor 15:51.
AK4:
Wanda
Oh yeah Im thinking on the same way. Like there is a spirit molecule or something or what "magic" is it that makes the transformation work. Speaking of which, if I can remember, there are some clues about going from spirit to flesh. Remember some angels could do it (and Jesus said we would be like the angels, but that may be just in reference to being immortal but idk).
Hmmm that's an interesting thought (I paid attention to the words this time lol) "a physical atomic change of matter itself". Let me let that sink in for a little
AwesomeSavior:
Bob:
At that time we will all relate to Jesus like another son of God (though Jesus has the preeminence in everything [hence...King of kings]), because we will be like him and see him as he is.
"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 John 3:2).
Dean
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