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Musterseed:
Ok Anthony I think I am beginning to understand what you are saying.
In the transcript that I posted in my last post, Physical or Resurrection bodies for the wicked,
in the last paragraph, Ray quotes “ Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon
and will live on into the reign of Jesus Christ with their physical bodies ,will not be outdone
by the wicked who are raised from their graves. ( the valley of dry bones is a physical resurrection
representative of the whole house of Israel)
I want to put emphasis on Rays quote Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon.
Are those who are spared death the same those who are in 1 Cor: 15?
I will quote Ray “ The resurrection taught in this chapter of 1 Cor. 15 is that of they that are Christ’s
NOT the resurrection of the wicked to judgement. Pay attention to the words.😁” ( I am trying) 😂
I think about , well God has an appointed , specific time for absolutely everything, and I pray come Lord Jesus and hope that this is the conclusion of the eon because well, it’s horrible and miserable and I
really am sick of it. Nevertheless we have to wait and wear away the time as we attain to the unity
of the Spirit. It’s going to be amazingly awesome Anthony and I too am very excited.
1 Cor.6:17…But he who is joined to the Lord becomes ONE SPIRIT WITH HIM.
Now, I learned something new while reading this transcript, which you guys probably already
knew and that’s about the prophecy of The Valley of Dry Bones. I really never studied it before
and assumed ( incorrectly) that it was the resurrection of all the dead , including the elect, but
NO. This speaks of a resurrection of the wicked back to physical bodies.
Ray say’s about Eze.37:8” I know of no spiritual tendons , muscles, fat or skin that
are put on physical bones to remake a spiritual man. This is a physical resurrection of
the dead.Ezekiel 37:10… and I have prophesied as He commanded me, and the
Spirit comes into them, and they live, and stand on their feet, a very great force.
Will the wicked then inherit incorruption at their resurrection. Well many say yes yes
yes they will.
NO, no they won’t. Are men like Hitler, Saddam etc, who are among the most corrupt able
men who have ever lived going to be given bodies that are incorruptible?
Is there a scripture that presents the resurrection of the wicked in such a glorious
, holy, and divine light? ( as those who inherit incorruption ( un- decaying, Strong #861,
aphtharsia from #862, incorruptibility, unending existence, ( fig.) genuineness,
incorruption, sincerity?
I think not. Rather we are presented with this characterization of the resurrected
wicked to eonian judgement.
Dan. 12:2,,, And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake.
Some to everlasting ( eonian) life and some to shame,( rebuke, reproach, disgrace)
and everlasting ( eonian) contempt,( repulsion, aversion, abhorrence.)
Continuing Rays quotes .
1 Cor.15:50.. now this I say brethren that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
of God, neither doth corruption ( corrupt men like Hitler, etc.) inherit incorruptiion.
The only ones who inherit incorruption {un- decaying} are those we (who )have
borne the image of the earthy ,( and) shall bear the image of the heavenly, and
this happens AT A SPECIFIC TIME. ( caps mine for emphasis, not yelling 😁)
God Bless you all as we attain to the unity of the Spirit.
AK4:
--- Quote from: Musterseed on March 04, 2022, 01:26:06 PM ---Ok Anthony I think I am beginning to understand what you are saying.
In the transcript that I posted in my last post, Physical or Resurrection bodies for the wicked,
in the last paragraph, Ray quotes “ Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon
and will live on into the reign of Jesus Christ with their physical bodies ,will not be outdone
by the wicked who are raised from their graves. ( the valley of dry bones is a physical resurrection
representative of the whole house of Israel)
I want to put emphasis on Rays quote Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon.
Are those who are spared death the same those who are in 1 Cor: 15?
I will quote Ray “ The resurrection taught in this chapter of 1 Cor. 15 is that of they that are Christ’s
NOT the resurrection of the wicked to judgement. Pay attention to the words.😁” ( I am trying) 😂
I think about , well God has an appointed , specific time for absolutely everything, and I pray come Lord Jesus and hope that this is the conclusion of the eon because well, it’s horrible and miserable and I
really am sick of it. Nevertheless we have to wait and wear away the time as we attain to the unity
of the Spirit. It’s going to be amazingly awesome Anthony and I too am very excited.
1 Cor.6:17…But he who is joined to the Lord becomes ONE SPIRIT WITH HIM.
Now, I learned something new while reading this transcript, which you guys probably already
knew and that’s about the prophecy of The Valley of Dry Bones. I really never studied it before
and assumed ( incorrectly) that it was the resurrection of all the dead , including the elect, but
NO. This speaks of a resurrection of the wicked back to physical bodies.
Ray say’s about Eze.37:8” I know of no spiritual tendons , muscles, fat or skin that
are put on physical bones to remake a spiritual man. This is a physical resurrection of
the dead.Ezekiel 37:10… and I have prophesied as He commanded me, and the
Spirit comes into them, and they live, and stand on their feet, a very great force.
Will the wicked then inherit incorruption at their resurrection. Well many say yes yes
yes they will.
NO, no they won’t. Are men like Hitler, Saddam etc, who are among the most corrupt able
men who have ever lived going to be given bodies that are incorruptible?
Is there a scripture that presents the resurrection of the wicked in such a glorious
, holy, and divine light? ( as those who inherit incorruption ( un- decaying, Strong #861,
aphtharsia from #862, incorruptibility, unending existence, ( fig.) genuineness,
incorruption, sincerity?
I think not. Rather we are presented with this characterization of the resurrected
wicked to eonian judgement.
Dan. 12:2,,, And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake.
Some to everlasting ( eonian) life and some to shame,( rebuke, reproach, disgrace)
and everlasting ( eonian) contempt,( repulsion, aversion, abhorrence.)
Continuing Rays quotes .
1 Cor.15:50.. now this I say brethren that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
of God, neither doth corruption ( corrupt men like Hitler, etc.) inherit incorruptiion.
The only ones who inherit incorruption {un- decaying} are those we (who )have
borne the image of the earthy ,( and) shall bear the image of the heavenly, and
this happens AT A SPECIFIC TIME. ( caps mine for emphasis, not yelling 😁)
God Bless you all as we attain to the unity of the Spirit.
--- End quote ---
Musterseed
Yes, everything Ive been saying lines up perfectly to what Ray was saying. See I said this in an earlier post but most of yall were thinking I was saying those who are alive at Christ return had immortal souls or something when that was far from what I was saying. Check it out this is what I said earlier:
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--- Quote ---Quote from: Dave in Tenn on March 01, 2022, 05:39:49 AM
Let's assume you are correct in your assumption. What I'm asking is--of what particular benefit is it to be "alive and remaining"?
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I see lots of benefits of it personally. I really like the idea of being part of the ones fulfilling that prophecy. I think there will be a feeling of relief and justification and jubilee etc etc and that we will be a GREAT witness along with those resurrected of Gods power and His plan. We will be able to talk to those who we are going to be save like "look what God did to me...Im 200 years old and look like a teenager. You can trust me that my God will do the same for you if you listen to what we are telling you."
Hmmm just had a thought there...maybe will we be like the apostles of their time with powers to perform miracles and one of those miracles is showing those who are to be saved that we were given immortality? Hmm just a thought
Anyway I see lots of benefits of it. Even like teaching those who need to be saved and believe in hell and that the lake of fire is literally the second death. No we can show them that no the lake of fire is not a literal 2nd death, look at us, are we dead we can ask them.
--- End quote ---
Musterseed, you got me to want to study that Ezek verses. I knew about it but I haven't read it in awhile and maybe I will see some more there
Anthony
AK4:
--- Quote from: Musterseed on March 04, 2022, 01:26:06 PM ---Ok Anthony I think I am beginning to understand what you are saying.
In the transcript that I posted in my last post, Physical or Resurrection bodies for the wicked,
in the last paragraph, Ray quotes “ Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon
and will live on into the reign of Jesus Christ with their physical bodies ,will not be outdone
by the wicked who are raised from their graves. ( the valley of dry bones is a physical resurrection
representative of the whole house of Israel)
I want to put emphasis on Rays quote Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon.
Are those who are spared death the same those who are in 1 Cor: 15?
--- End quote ---
Yes Even Ray said this without saying it directly within what you last posted. They, possibly you and me, hopefully, are those people that are not only a witness but a witness witness to what would be....I mean it's such a wonderful thought I have no really justifiable words to describe it. Think about that.
Yes a witness witness...like a bone fide witness to being part of that generation that will get to do that. Even if its not you or me , the generation that will and can do that. I mean whoa
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---Quote from: Musterseed on Yesterday at 12:26:06 PM
Ok Anthony I think I am beginning to understand what you are saying.
In the transcript that I posted in my last post, Physical or Resurrection bodies for the wicked,
in the last paragraph, Ray quotes “ Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon
and will live on into the reign of Jesus Christ with their physical bodies ,will not be outdone
by the wicked who are raised from their graves. ( the valley of dry bones is a physical resurrection
representative of the whole house of Israel)
I want to put emphasis on Rays quote Those who are spared death at the conclusion of this eon.
Are those who are spared death the same those who are in 1 Cor: 15?
--- End quote ---
I searched bible-truths.com and I cannot find this fragment: "Those who are spared death at the conclusion"
Someone please tell me exactly where the quote from Musterseed is found?
Musterseed:
Dennis
I explained how I found it in my previous reply #37 in my previous posts.
However I will say it again.
I typed in Hitler in the search engine and #14 titled Transcripts , Physical or Spiritual bodies
of the wicked came up . This is a Transcript of Ray’s. There is much more to it than what I wrote.
I will try to find it again
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