Hi Rose, there are a lot of things I don't get either. It seems we will only ever know in part until we are fully known. Thus, I understand Tartarus with respect to the fallen angels only in part. Perhaps someone can put the parts together for us.
Forget the added theology from these definitions, we know they are not true. I've bolded the parts that I think are the most relevant spiritually.
Tartarus, according to Strong's is:
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the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell.
Thayer Definition:
1) the name of the subterranean region,
doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews
2) to thrust down to Tartarus, to hold captive in Tartarus
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from Tartaros (the deepest abyss of Hell)
We learned from Ray's papers that Sheol and Hades are the realm of the dead, the unseen, the imperceptible, where the dead know nothing where the thoughts of the dead perish. Below is just one example of where Ray taught this.
https://bible-truths.com/hagee1.htmNo, there is no consciousness in Hell, and there is no consciousness in hades which is translated into the English word "hell." Ecc. 9:10 says, " ... in the grave." "Grave" in this verse is translated from the Hebrew word sheol (which means the unseen or imperceptible). When an Old Testament Scripture is quoted in the New Testament, they translate sheol into hades. So is there "consciousness" in the place sheol in the O.T.? Absolutely not. " ... there is NO WORK, nor DEVICE, nor KNOWLEDGE, nor WISDOM, in the grave [the Hebrew translated "grave" in this verse is sheol, which is synonymous with the Gk. hades] where you go" (Ecc. 9:10). According to God's Word, not your word, Mr. Hagee, when a person dies and returns to his earth, does he still have conscious thoughts? GOD'S answer: "His spirit goes forth, he returns to his earth, in that very day his thoughts PERISH" (Psalm 146: 3-4).
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We have also learned from Ray that angels can be mere humans.
https://bible-truths.com/23-minutes-in-hell.htmlMESSENGERS: Only once in Scripture do we read of "a messenger of Satan" (II Cor. 12:7). Messenger is here translated from Dr. Strong's #32 'angelos' which means: "a messenger, especially an angel, a pastor." Some Versions translate II Cor. 12:7 as "an angel of Satan" (Moffatt Translation); "an angel of Satan" (Emphatic Diaglott); "one of Satan's angels" (Phillip's Modern English New Testament). The Greek word 'angelos' has three meanings: "angel, messenger, and pastor." "Demon" is NOT a definition of angelos!
Of the hundreds and hundreds of different translations of the Scriptures, I know of none that translated the word "angelos" as "demon." And so we have conclusive proof from the Scriptures "the Devil's angels" are mortal men. The false prophet of Acts 13:6; the Pharisees whom Jesus called "children of the Wicked one" in Matt. 13:38; those Pharisees whom Jesus said had the Devil for their father in John 8:44; Satan's "ministers of righteousness" in II Cor. 11:14-15); are all human, mortal men, not spirits--despicable, disgusting, dirty, demons!
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Put these parts together and the bigger picture becomes a bit more clear. The human angels/messengers (in any and every generation they were alive) are thrown into and being kept in the deepest darkest pit of Hades (Tartarus) where they know nothing, including and especially knowledge of God. They are as spiritually dead as a door nail.
2Pe 2:4 For if God spares not sinning messengers, but thrusting them into the gloomy caverns of Tartarus, gives them up to be kept for chastening judging;"
This sounds like something Jude said:
Jud 1:6 Besides, messengers who keep not their own sovereignty, but leave their own habitation, He has kept in imperceptible bonds under gloom for the judging of the great day."
What I don't get is why are these human messengers seemingly more in the dark than those whom they serve? Is it because they are the false teachers, preachers, pastors, and priests of the Church? Isn't it true that if the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the ditch? What are these various “levels” of Hades?
As for Gehenna, it was the city dump outside of Jerusalem where they burned trash, dead animals and the dead bodies of criminals; those whom they deemed scum of the earth. Spiritually, it is where Jesus destroys the ignorance of God in humanity.
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