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HOW IS GOD LEADING/DRAGGING YOU?
Scribbles:
(What has our Lord done for you to wean you off the poison diet of Mystery Babylon?)
Each one of us, that "assembles" here, were led of His Spirit to do so. Before He allowed me to have the tastes of Babylon, I was within the crippling, evil, kingdom of satan....in which I was delivered from, some 30 years ago. I then searched for the "real" Jesus and His "real church", for all those years....by being given a taste of many denominational, nondenominational, home group studies, charismatic, and piles of books inbetween attendance. With reading the word, of course, there was one thing that contributed to being weaned off the "poison diet" and where I am today.....and that is .....prayer. Being in constant prayer with HIm, and listening to Him. I hope that I have listened, more than I have talked. When I have been showed something, or have gone through the fires and trials, etc....I've learned not to always ask "why", but, rather to simply find my quiet times alone with Him, sitting besides Him, and at His feet.
(yet I am experiencing that being led from evil and illusion into truth hurts because now I can not find much truth anywhere OUTSIDE ANY MORE)
You won't find it anywhere "outside", neither should we desire it.....meaning, if we are seeking Truth inside of a physical building that the world labels 'church'. Perhaps we feel that "hurt"......as our spirit struggles to be in His will....struggles to know "right from wrong"....struggles with the worldly/carnal idea of physically belonging to a group of people. And then He leads us to the truth.....which takes away the "hurt" and confusion, etc.and replaces it with a peace that certainly does passes our understanding.
(Where do you get your spiritual food?...other than here of course...)
Reading the bible.....KJV for now, since I don't have the money to buy a Concordant Literal New Testament yet.....from music.....from nature and His universe......and with prayer and fellowship with Him.
(I am not talking about the needs of the body I am talking about our soul and spirit need for HIS breath of life!..fruit of HIS Spirit!)
During those 30 years, one by one, I've been showed to spit out their food and banquets.....full of frozen foods, man-made junk foods, instant foods, bad foods, and cleverly disguised poisoned foods.....and once showed the "real" banquet....it was filled with good, fresh fruits. Thank goodness for no more spitting !!
I couldn't agree more with Bobby.....that I was dead in religion (and dead in the kingdom of darkness) and now being made alive in Christ and His Spirit, through a daily process, all done on His time table that's according to His will. I too, thank God for where I am today. It was kinda overwhelming at first, but , nevertheless, in a good way....(but, that's for another post...lol ) Phil. 4:11 is "right on"
Scribbles
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Scribbles
"...prayer and fellowship with Him..." You are blessed to experience ...where two or more are gathered!....He is with you....How wonderful His peace and blessing with you....
I am not always content. I am not always sure and I am not always in peace...I am always at His Mercy and am learning through experience that I can and should always count on it....I am learning...
Arcturus :)
orion77:
Hello Arcturus,
Many years ago, God came into this life in a way I've never heard of before. I was a young man and never studied the bible, but prayed for the first time openly and with a broken heart. He heard that prayer and came at that instant with an experience that is beyond words or description. Being young and a babe in the Lord, I needed to tell someone, and I thought who in their right mind will listen. So, I decided to go to churches and relay the experience, thinking they will know what I am talking about. Whew...big mistake, the very first preacher I talked to laughed so hard and loud, he almost fell out of his chair, and quickly ushered me out of his church, with a loud door slamming behind. The second wasn't much better, was told I was posessed with a devil, and given the most insidious looks I've ever seen before. I went to scores of churches, not giving up, because noone can undermine that experience, because it was of God.
I thank God for those experiences with churches, because it has caused me not to get caught up in their ways. It has been for the most part a walk of solitude, growing through much study and prayer, just between God and me. Always on the look for others who know God, yet the need for true fellowship has always been longed for. But, where to find them is the question? I thank God for Ray and this forum, and the members. It's been an oasis is the desert.
The kingdom of God is within, that is where His Spirit is, and its a constant battle to not let self regain the throne, but to yield towards His Spirit. The true faith, is not one that is welcomed in this world. Contrary to what most say, we will not be well loved or become rich. I look at the lives of the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and the many throughout history who have suffered for His namesake, and it gives me peace and joy that God has given that privledge to one such as me.
I don't see myself as being worthy for the spiritual life, experiences, joy and the sufferings. Yet, this is what is happening, so, I accept it with thankfulness. Knowing that He knows what is best for me. I yearn for the day when the knowledge of the Lord will cover the earth and every knee shall bow, what great conversations and fellowship will transpire.
(Heb 4:9 LITV) So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.
(Heb 4:10 LITV) For he entering into His rest, he himself also rested from his works, as God had rested from His own. LXX-Psa. 95:11; Gen. 2:2
(Heb 4:11 LITV) Therefore, let us exert ourselves to enter into that rest, that not anyone fall in the same example of disobedience.
(Heb 4:12 LITV) For the Word of God is living, and powerfully working, and sharper than every two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of both soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge of the thoughts and intentions of the heart;
(Heb 4:13 LITV) and there is no creature unrevealed before Him; but all things are naked and laid open to His eyes, with whom is our account.
(Heb 4:14 LITV) Then having a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast the confession.
(Heb 4:15 LITV) For we do not have a high priest not being able to sympathize with our weaknesses but One having been tried in all respects according to our likeness, apart from sin.
(Heb 4:16 LITV) Therefore, let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy, and we may find grace for timely help.
We must follow Jesus, He came not to condemn, and loved us first while still being enemies, so we must do the same towards others. Seems to me, there is no other way. He shows His mercy to us, and He puts us in situations to where we must forgive them, for as we were before, now gaining some knowledge, must forgive and love them, for they know not what they do, as once we were.
(1Co 2:7 LITV) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, having been hidden, which God predetermined before the ages for our glory,
(1Co 2:8 LITV) which none of the rulers of this age has known. For if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;
(1Co 2:9 LITV) according as it has been written, "Eye has not seen, and ear has not heard," nor has it risen up into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for those that love Him. Isa. 64:4
(1Co 2:10 LITV) But God revealed them to us by His Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
God bless,
Gary
Deborah-Leigh:
Dear Gary
What a comforting responce much needed. From this thred what is appearing for me is the truth that this privilage of walking with Christ, means that we walk alone. Others too walk alone yielding to His Spirit in the unique person close way that Jesus Christ intends for each of us....
Opening this thred has provided me much comfort and encouragement to understand and be Okay with the way Jesus personalises HIs relationship with each of us. This is so contrary to what we have been educated to accept of the way of the world.
I am going to print out your responce and file it under a file heading....How to walk with Jesus......
I want to acknowledge you all here for sharing the intimacy of how you each know our Lord which magnifies His Name and presence in my life and as I see Him in your lives.
May God bless us all
Arcturus :)
stego:
Hi Arcturus!
I believe God leads me/drags me to him by showing me things as i live my life. So i actually gain a great deal spiritual understanding just by living life, marveling at all that God has created and loving it. I don't find it necessary to read the bible everyday at predetermined times, although there is nothing wrong with that of course. I just wait until God inspires me to read, then i read. Anyways Arcturus, i noticed you said in your post that
--- Quote ---I have been draged LITTERALLY AGAINST MY WILL...
--- End quote ---
. I belive i know what you are actually saying here, but for the sake of our understanding, i want to be sure we agree on the idea of this. I believe that God never causes anyone to do anything against their own will. Instead, he causes our will to be as he wants it to be. So in other words, i think God caused you to want to get out of that church, and he did not force you to get out of that church against your will. Anyways, cool post! And as always, if i am wrong in my biblical beliefs I would appreciate correction.
God bless,
Sean
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