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Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Everyone

I was reading Ray’s Lake of Fire Part 15-C when lightening struck! Ray wrote:

“In whom THE GOD OF THIS WORLD has blinded the minds of them which believe…(just ask yourselves if you really believe all of the Scriptures that I am presenting in this paper?…)…believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, Who is the Image of God, should shine unto them” (2 Cor 4:4)

For a few years now,  I have been aware of how much evil I was seeing and I did not want to see it. Have you ever felt this way? The more I saw the more I did not want to see and it was distressing to me especially as Christ says….Matt 24;6 And you will hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, for the end is not yet.”……so, Yes Sure!….I know NOT to be troubled, but I was…..I KNOW not to be frightened, but I have be unnerved….!

Gradually I began experiencing that  I preferred not to watch or be aware of any bad news so I stopped watching the TV news. Has this ever happened to you? But… Did that stop me from hearing about 9.11….No!….I found that I moved further away from watching anything associated with violence, immorality and crime that is so part of Hollywood entertainment. ..but that did not help. The darkness got thicker and the evil I was seeing became more and more and more…..Yes sure….be not troubled but I was troubled! Then, like I said, Gods lightening struck as I re-read the above verse in Rays LOF especially appreciating how he presented it …”In whom THE GOD OF THIS WORLD has blinded the minds of them which believe………of them which believe…..OF THEM WHICH BELIEVE!  HEY! I BELIEVE!….THEN..…..I REALIZED that seeing the darkness and knowing it is of Satan is part of SEEING! It is part of not being BLIND! NOT believing that SATAN  IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD is BLINDNESS! …and trying to run, escape, not look just showed how poor my faith has been in a Sovereign God. This darkness and evil in the world was ruling, intimidating and threatening me….I ran from the dark because it upset me. The dark made me fearful and anxious and now GOD makes me see, that I see. This has been a major TURN AROUND AND blessing for me!

I had been going around and around the mountain, like the Hebrew children did for 40 years even though their destination was some two weeks away. I was going around and around the walls of Jericho, dodging the shadows of the walls of evil against me…thinking I understood, feeling concerned with the darkness and evil and then THANKS TO GOD …the walls of my self-stylised understanding came down! Since this revelation has come to me I CAN FACE EVIL with a different understanding…and it is such a relief!…I was in bondage for years on this one!….and all this goes to show is that I was not believing in the Sovereignty of God….I was believing in the sovereignty of evil……………and now by Gods Grace I am BEGINNING to believe GOD!…..and it is wonderful!.

Whats your story?

Arcturus :)

mongoose:
Arcturus,
   I rarely, if ever, watch the news and only watch TV a bit...there are a few shows I watch.  The news breaks my heart and makes me cry, and it is so biased.  They only tell about the bad stuff.  Yes, there is evil and pain and suffering in the world.  But that is not all there is.  I am happier not seeing the news every day and not depressed like I was.  I still hear about the major happenings through other people but they don't seem to blow it all out of proportion as much.

I asked God about 10 years ago to let me see the world as it was.  It was arrogance and pride that made me say that...like, whatever bad there is, I can take it.  And He answered my prayer I think.  But along with the bad, He showed me the good...and the pain and suffering and lonliness and fear behind the actions of people who do bad things.  That took the wind out of my sails and has made me consider others feelings more and to be more patient and loving towards people who hurt me and others.  And has caused me to forgive things I thought I never could.  It's hard to stay mad at someone when you know they are lashing out because of pain and that they too, will be restored to God and healed one day.

So, yes, there is evil and pain and suffering in the world.  And it still makes me sad.  I know all that is happening is part of God's plan...but I would be lying if I said I understood or always accepted that.  Sometimes I hate it a whole lot...and pray for understanding.  But, all the bad that has happened in my own life...for that I am very grateful.  And, in addition to the evil and darkness there is also a lot of good and light in the world I think.  There is a poem I like that ends: "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it still is a beautiful world."  And with all the evil and pain and suffering, God has given us light and love and beauty and peace.

Much love in Christ,

mongoose

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Mongoose

It is wonderful how God is moulding you into patience, long-suffering and forgiveness.

The world is Gods and the Kingdoms of the world are Satan's....That is how I understand this....

What would you say are the Kingdoms?....Religion, Politics, Banking, Education, Law and so called Order, Health ?...anyone?

Arcturus :)

gmik:
Here is something I struggle with.

Now that we believe in everyone eventually being saved, we use the reasonings & scriptures to point out that a loving God wouldn't do such an awful thing as send people to hell.

But then we have to explain everything is God's will, so He does the Holocaust, plagues, wars, cancers etc. That doesn't seem like a loving God.
 

How do we reconcile the 2 views?

Gena

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Gena

I am quoting Ray from Lake of Fire part 3...

"..........I do not want any one to draw the erroneous conclusion that since we must go through a plethora of trials, tribulations, suffering, and persecution, that all God is interested in is putting us through a living hell. This is not the case at all. Each and every trial and persecdution that comes upon us is designed to MAKE US SPIRITUALLY STRONG. And with spiritual strenght comes PEACE, FULFILLMENT, TRUE HAPPINESS AND JOY.

How would you like to be "supernaturely blest"  "well off"  "fortunate" and  "happy" for the rest of your life? Well believe it or not, going through all the trials and tribulations and persecutions that Christ outlined in the Scriptures for all those who would become His followers, is exactly how all of these good things can become yours!......unquote

So you see Gena, God is Love and Hell is a pagan idea used to empower man and bring him into deeper delusion....fear...bondage and confusion....

 I understand that God uses Satan to bring the plagues, wars etc.. God has made Satan  the GOD OF THIS WORLD...

Also we are not saved from judgment....we all need purification....only Christ is pure.....thats why we need HIM. We can not get pure on our own steam.....or through our own understanding....

THis is what I have understood so far and it has helped me to see that God is Love, Spirit, Truth and Sovereign

Arcturus :)

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