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hughbee40:
Howdy all
  I gave a testimony in the "your story" section and received many wonderful replies.  I don't think I have ever found such a community in my entire walk that has had something relevent to say in each and every response. I thank you all.   I believe that L. Ray says that the chosen will come from the called.  I believe that the called are the called and the chosen are the chosen.  While I feel that we all are here by the wonderful revelation that God has given L. Ray, we are also invited to allow the Spirit to work in us individually.  While most christians believe that from among themselves the "elect" will rise from their ranks as good followers of the commandments, etc., I believe that the elect shall be the simple people who have allowed the Holy Spirit of God to reach them in a way that they have learned to give up their ways of deciding their own lives and allowed Him to lead every step.  That means never feeling guilty for a failure, sin or mistake.  God created us exactly as He wanted us to be. With all weakness and infirmity that everone suffers from.  When we judge ourselves for the mistakes that we make, we condemn ourselves as still being slaves to the law.  If we can overcome the hurdle of unworthiness then we are 99 and 44/100% on our way to "elect" status.  When Christ cleansed the leper, he was no longer considered a leper, yet as we have been cleansed by the blood of Christ, most still consider ourselves as sinners.  Yes, we are all sinners.  But if we have truly accepted his provision for us, sin has no effect upon us.  When Christ said "I have not come to put away the law, but to fulfill it", he was referring to Levitical law, specifically ch. 25 beginning roughly around verses 50+ regarding the laws of slavery.  Most christians like to use that scripture to reaffirm God's intent for us to adhere to the ten commandments, among others.  Christ told us to live by HIS commandments, simply to love God with all of your heart and to love others as He had loved them.  The New Testament commandments of Christ are NOT the Old Testament commandments of God (The Father)  If one tries to live their lives based on the ten commandments, they will always fall short.  That is why Jesus told us the expansion of the law of adultury regarding the sin of the eye.  We are being invited to put away the imperfect law of the flesh and embrace the new perfect law of the spirit.  Christ as a perfect manifestation of God Himself in the flesh was able to fulfill the imperfect law (of the flesh only) and therefore become a "near kinsman" required to free us from the fleshly sentance of death that Levitical law required.  Our (New) commandments are to love God and one another.  Yet as L. Ray has helped us to learn, it isn't about blatant forgiveness for everyone elses misgivings.  There is a time for courageous chastisement to those who preach a false doctrine and mislead others. We are a truly small community and I belive that all of us are becoming the foundation of God's elect.  I have so much more I need to share with all of you but time presently restricts my ability to do so.  Please offer back any affirmation or opposition to my words here today and I will continue respond as I am able to do so.

Yours in Christ
Hughbee40

orion77:
Amen to that Hughbee40,

Good analogy of the leper, so true.  I think this is one of the hardest hurdles for us to overcome, and that is self condemnation by and through the law of moses.  That is the beauty of faith, things not seen, but hoped for.  Living in that faith being fully forgiven, not later, but now!


(Rom 4:16 LITV)  On account of this, it is of faith, that it be according to grace, for the promise to be certain to all the seed, not to that of the Law only, but also to that of the faith of Abraham, who is father of us all,

(Rom 4:17 LITV)  according as it has been written, "I have appointed you a father of many nations;" before God, whom he believed, the One making the dead live, and calling the things that are not as if they were. Gen. 17:5


God bless,

Gary

hillsbororiver:
Hello Hughbee,

Excellent post!

Just as the healing of the leper made the leper's flesh whole it did not heal his spirit, in that same way keeping the law would improve one's life in the here and now, indeed it's principles are the basis for the laws in "civilized" society (no matter if secular society denies it), without them we would have chaos (well, even more chaos).   

The New Covenant made manifest by the death and resurrection of our Lord is what (through His Spirit) gives spiritual life, the Old Covenant could produce an improved life in the here and now but did not give real, spiritual life, immortality.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe   

brothertoall:
Hughbee,

 What a wonderful post. And for me it is the Father through Christ that is setting me free everyday.it is a slow process but it is being done and I am thankful for that. It is nice that he has lead me to others like you all that are going through that same process.

bobby

Kat:
Hi hughbee40,

You made a lot of really good points in your post.

I agree that the elect are a people that the Holy Spirit of God is leading their every step,
that sin no longer has controll over us, goes hand in hand with this.
Indeed the Spirit is a consuming force in our lives.


--- Quote --- Christ told us to live by HIS commandments, simply to love God with all of your heart and to love others as He had loved them.
--- End quote ---

We are able to live by His commandments, because He lives in us,
that is the only way you can keep the law of the Spirit.

I believe one of the purposes of the elect,
is to expose the blasphemies of the churches, as Ray is doing.

I'm glad that you are here, and will be sharing more.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat



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