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Craig

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Why Bother?
« on: November 10, 2006, 10:03:51 AM »

    Hey Ray,
                  you said the punishement of sin is simply death, ie soul annihalation so, and you also stated in another one of your emails that even good guys like Abraham and Moses is not in heaven , well if thats the case  why bother trying not to sin, I     mean why should I not sleep around, watch pornography, go to prostitutes , have premarital sex, get drunk , shoplift if I'm not gonna be any better off than the guy who doesnt do these things, I might as well enjoy my life according to my own standards as long as I dont abuse kids, kill anybody, rape anyone, steal off an individual then I wont feel guilty for the way I am, but dont forget that other people may have lower moral standards than I have which include some of the latter things. 
    The message you are sending out is that its pointless being good or trying to obey Gods law all the time because you are not going to go to heaven anyway no matter how good you are.
                                                Yours Barry.
     
    Dear Barry:
    I receive thousands and thousands of foolish emails. Yours is one of the most foolish.
    First of all, "shoplifing" IS stealing from individuals. Who do you think owns those stores, monkeys?
     
    Abraham and Moses WILL be in the Kingdom of God, but no, tis true, they are not presently in heaven.
     
    If "sleeping around, watching pornography, prostituting, premarital sex, drunkenness, and shoplifting" is what "enjoying your life" means to you, then I guess that is what you will have to do.
     
    If you have read anything on my site, then you know that I write more about God's JUDGMENTS than almost anyone on the Interenet. So ALL of your foolish suggestions are way out of line. There is coming very severe JUDGMENT upon all unrepentant sinners. And the more you sin the greater the judgment, so BE WARNED.  God has not promised a heaven on some rock in outer space, nor has He threatened with some eternal hellhole of misery in fire. The righteous will be saved in the first resurrection and the wicked and non-believers will be judged in the second resurrection. At the consummation ALL WILL BE SAVED (I Tim. 2:4, 4:10; I Cor. 15:28, I John 4:14, John 1:29, Phil. 2:9-11, Ep;h. 1:10, etc., etc., etc.).
    Ray


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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 10:36:46 AM »

      O.K. Ray, Thanks for you reply, point taken,
                             I dont actually enjoy doing all of those things which I mentioned,  especially shoplifting and drunkeness,  I was exagerrating a bit in order to make a point.
    According to you there are degrees of punishment, you say that the more you sin the greater the punishment,  afterall why should the old lady from next door whose most serious sin was to pinch a few sweets out of the local store in her younger days receive the same punishment as a child rapist or somebody like Adolf Hitler or Bin Laden. 
    However although I agree with you that there should be degrees of punishment, where in the Bible does it say this? It just seems to mention a final  lake of fire, it doesnt mention some lessen punishment for lesser sinners.
                                           Barry.
     

    Dear Barry:
     
    Yes it does:  "Blessed is that servant, whom his Lord [Jesus Christ] when He comes shall find so doing....And that servant, which knew HIs Lord's will, and prepared not himself [in how he lived his life], neither did according to His will, shall be BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES.  But he that knew not and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with FEW stripes.  For unto whosomsoever much is given, of him shall be much reqauired, and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the MORE"  (Luke 12:43 & 47-48).
     
    "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees hypocrites! for ye devour widows houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive THE GREATER damnation"  (Matt. 23:14).
     
    "For her sins have reached unto heaven and God has remembered her iniquities [the sins of the Babylonian Church of Christendom] .  Reward her even as she rewarded you, and DOUBLE UNTO HER DOUBLE according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her DOUBLE" (Rev. 18:5-6).
     
    "Of how much WORSE PUNISHEMENT suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy who has trodden under foot the Son of God...." (Heb. 10:29). And many Old Testament prophecies.
     
    All of these judgments take place at the Great White Throne/Lake of Fire/Second Death JUDGMENT.
    God be with you,
    Ray
     
     


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