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ez2u:
newoldstock yes my post was silly I have something else on my mind which I need to do and it just came out . thanks Gina , sascxell and iria for your support. This means alot to me as I struggle on.
After reading and studing better these comments the value of this forum it really wonderfully feeding. I have something I would like to ask? I hope its alright I have been thinking about this for several years. This garden is it in us? Our carnal fleshly being is it Satan? Are we consuming the swine nature of carnality, the worm that never dies the fleshly desires that wants more and more and never is satisfried. Is that why we have to take on the the body and blood of Christ. Is all of this US.
ez2u:
look at mathew 16: 22-23 amplified
Then peter took Hime aside to speak to Him privately and began to reprove and charge Him sharply, saying God forbid, Lord! This must never happen to You!
But Jesus turned away from Peter and said to him, Get behind me Satan! You are in My way {an offense and a hindrance and a snare to Me}; for you are minding what partakes not of the mature and quality of GOd, but of men.
If you read on in 24-28 it says more clearly about casting down this self and takening on the life of Christ . It seems clear to me who is Satan the fleshy carnal man the first Adam and Jesus is the Second Adam the resurrected life. Opinons greatly needed!!! Peggy
DuluthGA:
Good question Peggy, and my off-the-cuff, good-as-it-gets-guess answer is... it probably is.
In this regard, I sure do LONG for Ray's upcoming paper on the oneness of it all... how it all IS ONE... [am not quite exact on how he has described it.] I think we all will be blown out of our chairs again, only this time by it's simplicity.
Thanks especially to Beloved and ALL for lots of detail work and head work.
With Luv, Janice
P.S. Peggy and others, I'm a former health professional that has come to don "gauze-covered" glasses.... not only spiritually to peer through the threads to see God's spiritual truths... but the rest of the world with it's operations' systems as well. Does anyone out there really think the ENTIRE medical industry and ALL it's tendrils does not thrive on m.o.n.e.y. and that they really want you completely healed and not coming back for more (doctor time, procedures, etc.)?? Hint: They've built as many physical buildings for their deception as has the Great Whore built church buildings. This, the political systems, and other worldly systems are to me all part of the great deception going on that will be all straightened out by Christ at His return along with the manifest sons and daughters of God. I'm not paranoid, I just see through the gauze. ;) :) ;D
pilgrim:
--- Quote from: ez2u on August 08, 2007, 08:12:38 PM ---Diet a good question when I had breast cancer I drank raw juices mostly vegetable carrot etc... then did alot of cleansing. I found that the closer I stayed to raw and in the natural state of the food the healthier it was for my body . I actually looked better slept better and felt better when I changed my diet. There is alot of great books out on raw foods and juicing it is much healthier for everyone...
...This was truth but when I fed my body nourishment I didn't have cravings haunting me and it was more of a mind thing. I would love to hear if anyone else had this experience of sorts. Peggy
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Peggy...
Check out the following website...
http://www.bernarrmacfadden.com
Macfadden was one of the first to spread the benefits of a natural diet and exercise.
Praise our Father in Heaven and His Son Jesus.
Fond regards and thanks for your posts...
Pilgrim
rj:
Hey Peggy...
You can go to Ray's e-mails, and type in satan and, he has answered this question a few times. here is one of them...Ron
k...i believe mostly what you say...is it possible...
« on: March 18, 2006, 07:43:44 PM »
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that rather than there being a seperate creature (called Satan...who was supposed to be a perfect angel, then fell) who did evil...that 'satan' is just the name for fallen man and his carnal, evil inclined nature? I find it hard to believe, as well as a discredit to God that He could make anything, and then up and do what is was not designed to do (as in an angel). I believe that Adam was designed TO fall, and that his natural carnal nature itself talked him into sinning while in the garden. I believe it is our carnal nature refered to as satan...it is enmity against God, and we (humans) need no outside influence to sin.
Dear Timothy:
You believe what you believe because you do not believe the Scriptures.
Was Jesus really tempted by His "fallen carnal mind--His evil nature?" Was Jesus referring to"His own carnal nature" that Jesus said, "Get thee behind Me, Satan?" Was Jesus' "carnal evil nature," "enmity against God?" Did Jesus really HATE HIS OWN FATHER? It's an "idol of your heart," Timothy, give up.
Ray
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