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fairness
Kat:
Hi Sandy,
--- Quote ---God's elect would reign with Him for those 1,000 years, but if no one else is alive, whom would they reign over?
--- End quote ---
There will be people living on earth at Christ's return.
This scripture in Rev. show the return of Christ.
Rev 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.
v.12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself.
v.13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.
v.14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.
v.15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
v.16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
In verse 15 he will strike the nations with a sharp sword from His mouth, this sword form His mouth is the Word of God.
It does state He will rule them with a rod of iron, they will need to be alive to rule them :)
Mat 24:14 "And this glad message of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the inhabited earth, for a witness unto all the nations,—and, then, will have come, the end." (Rotherham)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
eggi:
I have often thought about this myself, and I have discovered one or two verses that take care of this for me:
And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. (Luk 12:47-48 KJV)
Most people can't see God's fairness shining through these verses. It's been there all along, those who are given much will have much required of them. Instead we learned in the church that those who didn't receive Jesus would be tortured in hell fire forever. "And it's JUSTICE!"
Even though this is a parable talking about the Jews and the Gentiles, we see the same fairness here:
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. (Luk 16:25 KJV)
We are comforted so that we can comfort others:
Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. (2Co 1:4 KJV)
These verses speak very much to me about God's FAIR and PERFECT plan. I'm sure there are many more. I'll keep on looking, and I encourage you to do the same! ;)
gmik:
Sean, when I start thinking thoughts like that (& I do), I quickly jump back into scripture to get grounded again.
My latest valley, was similar in that Yes, God is Good, but tell that to the Holocaust victims, or Pol Pots atrocities, or cancer or accidents and I just start reeling. So, that tells me I have been in the world too much, too much TV news, idleness or whatever. I reread something on Ray's site or I pick old favorite verses and just read those awhile or just pray nothing but thanksgiving to "Him who loves me" . Think on GOOD things Paul says . Then faith rises and I am back to "normal" and nothing can sway me! Then I am so full of Him that I don't care if I am in or out...I am just happy that I know Him and He loves me.
Just my 2 cents.
gena
Kat:
Hi gena,
I think you are so right about that,
because I have found the same thing happens when I'm away from the Word very long.
As soon as I get back in the Word,
then I feel the power of the Spirit again and the clarity that only the Spirit can give, returns.
Thanks for bringing that up :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
ned:
(CEV)
Rom 9:14 Are we saying that God is unfair? Certainly not!
Rom 9:15 The Lord told Moses that he has pity and mercy on anyone he wants to.
Rom 9:16 Everything then depends on God's mercy and not on what people want or do.
Rom 9:17 In the Scriptures the Lord says to Pharaoh of Egypt, "I let you become king, so that I could show you my power and be praised by all people on earth."
Rom 9:18 Everything depends on what God decides to do, and he can either have pity on people or make them stubborn.
Rom 9:19 Someone may ask, "How can God blame us, if he makes us behave in the way he wants us to?"
Rom 9:20 But, my friend, I ask, "Who do you think you are to question God? Does the clay have the right to ask the potter why he shaped it the way he did?
Rom 9:21 Doesn't a potter have the right to make a fancy bowl and a plain bowl out of the same lump of clay?"
Dan 4:37 That's why I say: "Praise and honor the King who rules from heaven! Everything he does is honest and fair, and he can shatter the power of those who are proud."
Rev 15:3 and they were singing the song that his servant Moses and the Lamb had sung. They were singing, "Lord God All-Powerful, you have done great and marvelous things. You are the ruler of all nations, and you do what is right and fair.
Rev 16:7 After this, I heard the altar shout, "Yes, Lord God All-Powerful, your judgments are honest and fair."
Rev 19:11 I looked and saw that heaven was open, and a white horse was there. Its rider was called Faithful and True, and he is always fair when he judges or goes to war.
Isa 55:9 Just as the heavens are higher than the earth, my thoughts and my ways are higher than yours.
Carnally speaking, we may see God's purpose as unfair, but..
Spiritually speaking, that is, when we are living in spirit and truth, with His will in our hearts, we know He is fair.
With Love in Christ,
Marie
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