Arcturus
I am enjoying this, perhaps it should be off line but I think we are covering some very interesting ground.
Let me respond to you 2nd statement first:
The teachings of Hell Fire and eternal punishment are all taken straight out of paganism and they are re-produced in mis-translations that have been exceptionally refuted and led captive to the obedience of Christ in LOF teachings that expose the heresy of Hell and eternity. LOF teachings of course as shown on Bible Truths Ray Smith!Exactly!! Ray uses and refutes the King James version of the bible for it's short commings. However, would you go as far as removing it's Holy Scripture title. Millions of people use such translations, albeit poor translations as their only source of understanding. Remember, God grants understanding, we do not earn it nor have it without him.
Now back to your first point:
Hello Darren
You wrote : the damnedest heresies come straight from the Holy Scripture, God's Word. WOW are you going to tell God that! No....NO NO Darren the damnedest heresies do not come from God they come from the " arguments and theories and reasonings and every proud and lofty thing that sets itself up against the true knowledge of God....." 2 Cor 10 : 5Arcturus, I will stand by my statement, just as long as I believe the King James is God's Word or Holy Scripture. Is it perfect, of course not. I know that now, but not then, and yes, those hell fire heresies I read myself. The Scripture you posted is perfect, because without "understanding" I believed everything I read verbatim and any " arguments and theories and reasonings and every proud and lofty thing that sets itself up against the true knowledge of God....."
Do you see where I am going with this. I never once said or implied that God's Holy Scripture is in itself a lie and heretic in nature. I merely stated that it contains everything that Satan and pompous man and his would be wisdom can use to defame God. I know that now, not then. Would I tell God this. Of course, because he knows all things already. He knows and knew his Word would not be understood by the masses, hence my previous post of Scripture to prove this:
Luk 8:10 - And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Luk 24:45 - Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
Jhn 8:43 - Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.
Surely God knows why it took me 40 years to find the truth, it is because he with held it.
So Arcturus, I believe this debate has run its course. I do not believe that we are on apposing sides. I love you and enjoy reading your posts, so let us part as valued friends.
Love to you in Christ,
Darren