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Kat:
Hi Alex,
I have been thinking about your questions.
--- Quote ---So my question now is after reading a certain article from ray, it has rather shaken the foundations of what i THOUGHT was truth...
That all things in the OT were shadows or types of us or Christ in some way shape or form, not just natural history of a people for us to learn about.. but what i got from reading a certain article from ray was that this type of thinking is dangerous.. again, i'm not saying this is what He ment, or was saying, but this is what i got from it..
So i'm trying to figure out, where does one draw the line?
--- End quote ---
Most of us have come out of the church, we learned many false doctrines, I know I had some really ingrained in my understanding and they have to be purged.
As things are revealed, we have to purge those old ways of seeing things out.
The scripture are very complex and intricate, and there are many layers of understanding to them.
I know I have went back and read and studied the same scripture and continue to gain a deeper understanding of it.
Some are given a greater degree of insight and can teach us what is revealed to them.
But I do believe it only comes through much study and meditation and prayer, for anyone to receive knowledge of the Truth.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
As for Joseph, I believe his life closely resembles that of the elect.
He was predestinated, therefore everything in his life was caused and lead up to his ruling over the land of Egypt.
His brothers hated him, because he told them about his dreams, we are hated when we speak of the things God has revealed to us. As with him I think this is especially difficult for our families to comprehend.
Mat 13:57 And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household."
Joseph was in prison for many years, as the years I was in the church seemed like a prison to me.
And God brought him to the highest position, through many trials, in Egypt under Pharaoh (Christ).
I think the scripture are chock-full of knowledge, we could not possibly learn even the half of it,
in this lifetime anyway.
But God will continue to reveal to us what He desires in His good time.
As for drawing a line, as long as we stick with what is in the scripture we should not limit it,
I think a line would limit what we can see in it :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
lilitalienboi16:
Alright thank you both of you, dwight and kat.
Dwight i see what your saying, however adam also did disobey God by eating of the tree, full well knowing the consequences, but i see what your saying.
However i have another question now, ray says that Christ was not made sin, but rather in the likeness.
However one of the scriptures state;
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him
He made Him to be sin.
The reason i ask this is because ray was saying that the flesh is not sin, but rather the carnal mind, and so Jesus was made in the likeness of sin [in flesh.] but did not have a carnal mind because Christ always followed His father and pleased Him.
Now i know the carnal mind is sin, but for Christ to be made sin, if He didn't have a carnal mind as ray says [because the carnal mind is not subject to the laws of God.] how could Christ have been made sin, if it wasn't His flesh that was sin?
Anyone know?
God bless and thank you all again,
Alex
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Alex
Christ was never made sin....He was always a sin offering, spotless sinless Lamb of God.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on December 31, 2006, 03:23:15 PM ---Hello Alex
Christ was never made sin....He was always a sin offering, spotless sinless Lamb of God.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
--- End quote ---
How come the verse says He was made sin, and another says in the likeness?
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him
Unless i'm reading this wrong which could be possible... it says He made Him to be sin... so if Christ was not made sin... then.................. i'm confused, lol.
God bless,
Alex
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Alex
Refer to the latest Mobile Conference for the audio teaching on this subject. You can pick it up in the Announcements section on the Forum.
Enjoy!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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