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hillsbororiver:
I believe the Chapter of Psalm 149 undelines what some of us were saying in Sorin's topic "kill or don't kill - Does God Change?" Not wanting to hijack the thread I thought we could have some discussion on what this chapter might be saying to us.

Psalm 149

 1Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

 2Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

 3Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

 4For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

 5Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

 6Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

 7To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

 8To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

 9To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

Any and all comments will be greatly appreciated.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

hillsbororiver:
Maybe I was being too vague in what I thought was an interesting subject, as I have mentioned in previous posts, for decades I believed the OT was primarliy a history of physical Israel with some prophetic references to the (physical) birth (and ministry, sacrifice, triumph) of Jesus and "end time" scenarios.

Now I am seeing the OT in an entirely different "light" (I pray), it appears that the Old Testament scriptures more readily apply to the present (each generation) life of a called, chosen, believer and what the future holds for the overcomers, those of us who "endure to the end."

Don't these verses from the 149th Psalm speak of a future time?

This "destruction" so often spoken of in the OT, could the bigger message be that this "destruction" is actually a renovation? That the old inferior carnal flesh is going to be refined, remade, (Lake of Fire) into a new perfect spirit? A Son/Daughter of God?

The intense ferocity that is on the surface of "smite, destroy, kill" verses may have a deeper spiritual meaning   
for us, that this extreme (in our minds) manner in dealing with enemies is illustrating how profoundly mind bending the White Throne Judgement and subsequent journey through the LOF will be on those whose names are not in the Book Of Life.

Could it be that some of the suppostions/opinions on these verses are the victims of Strong Delusion? That for those with "eyes to see" and who were given the gift of understanding that they would see this for what it may very well be? This is a bit of a new understanding for me and I find it extremely fascinating, I have been amazed at how relevent the "old Prophets" are in my day to day life and how much buried treasure there is to mine there (as with all scripture).

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

eggi:

--- Quote ---This "destruction" so often spoken of in the OT, could the bigger message be that this "destruction" is actually a renovation? That the old inferior carnal flesh is going to be refined, remade, (Lake of Fire) into a new perfect spirit? A Son/Daughter of God?
--- End quote ---

I think you are right, Joe. The future punishment and judgment discussed here will have a redeeming effect, it will be for GOOD.
I believe this is talking about a renovation, in fact the very regeneration mentioned here:

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Mat 19:28 KJV)

I used to see it as a history book too, therefore I thought it was all passed. Turns out, it gets deeper and deeper.

Sorin:
Hi Joe,

No, you weren't too vague. I actually typed up a reply but chose not to post it in the end in order to not offend anybody.

Take care,
Sorin

gmik:
I had trouble with this psalm for years.  I thought that never would I ever be happy to be smiting my enemies like that.  So I figured it was David and he rejoices after a good battle.  I would just move on to psalms 150.  much easier.

I too thought OT was history of the jewish nation and only needed at that level.  I actually never read from it..   NOW, I love getting the fresh take on it.  Joe & Eirik I thought very thought provoking posts.  Sorin, PM your post to Joe! ;)

My take?? I love the renovation idea. I don't have time right this moment to search & dig for pearls-but ps 149 is on my to-do list!!
love,
gena

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