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Please pass the SALT!
Kat:
Hi Arcturus,
The way I am looking at this, is most foods are dull of themself,
but when you add salt, this makes food come to life.
Same for the elect, when they have Christ in them,
they bring life to the world.
John 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
John 8:12 Then Jesus spoke again to them, saying, I am the Light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the life of life.
Mat 5:13 You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its savor, with what shall it be salted? It is no longer good for anything, but to be thrown out and to be trodden underfoot by men.
As for Matt 5:13, it seems to be referring to someone who has Christ in them, but goes back into the world and falls away.
I believe it is saying they can not be restored in this life, but must go to the White Throne Judgment.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the good Word of God and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 and who have fallen away; it is impossible, I say, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify the Son of God afresh to themselves and put Him to an open shame.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
Hi Arcturus,
Interesting subject, I am going to look into this more. What struck me first off is how salt is used, a little bit is sprinkled or distributed over the entire area to be consumed. You don't put the whole amount on one small bit of your meal.
Kind of like the elect, spread or placed apart all over the world.
Thank you for starting this thought provoking post.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
DWIGHT:
Kat,
Heb. 6:6 has always bothered me because I have fallen away a few times myself, yet here I am. Why do you think it says that it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance? Is this a bad translation? I mean loosing its saltiness and impossible to renew them seems to match, doesn't it? Nothing is impossible with God. Its like the unforgivable sin. Anyway, I could sure use some clarification on this.
In His love,
Dwight
hillsbororiver:
As I was contemplating this through the scriptural references to salt I remembered that salt is a unique compound, it is comprised of sodium (a metal so dangerously unstable that it can burst into flame when exposed to water). The other element is chlorine (a lethal gas).
Put them together and you have salt, very low toxicity and non flamable.
I think there could be some significance here...............
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: DWIGHT on January 10, 2007, 08:18:31 PM ---Kat,
Heb. 6:6 has always bothered me because I have fallen away a few times myself, yet here I am. Why do you think it says that it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance? Is this a bad translation? I mean loosing its saltiness and impossible to renew them seems to match, doesn't it? Nothing is impossible with God. Its like the unforgivable sin. Anyway, I could sure use some clarification on this.
In His love,
Dwight6
--- End quote ---
Hello Dwight,
Falling away is expected, it is part of our growth and spiritual development as we realize we are nothing and He is everything. If we are not humble enough to forgive we will not be forgiven and are not one of His chosen. Recognizing how weak our flesh is and beginning to despise the worldly things we once loved should tell us that He is working us unto perfection, we are not nor will we be perfect in this flesh but we have the covering of Christ's blood.
We fall, He lifts us up, if we are truly chosen He will keep us and cover us.
Prov 24:1 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Matt 18:21Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Matt 18:22Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Matt 18:23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
Matt 18:24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
Matt 18:25But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
Matt 18:26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
Matt 18:27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Matt 18:28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
Matt 18:29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
Matt 18:30And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Matt 18:31So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
Matt 18:32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
Matt 18:33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
Matt 18:34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Matt 18:35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
The chapter of Hebrews 6 is speaking of the called who were not of the elect, not of the elect who may stumble along their walk with Him because He will lift His own again and again. Remember He will not lose any of those whom the Father has given Him.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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