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Free Will is an Oxymoron.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Chris R and Bobf
You both mention Rom 9 : 19 in your posts. 8)
From what I have learnt in LOF… ;D
The word ‘will’ used in this Scripture is only used one other time in Act 27:43
The translation of this word is more correctly translated ‘purpose’. Seen in this light we can ask the question who has resisted God’s Will? The answer is everyone!
But who has resisted, thwarted or prevented God’s purpose or plan? No one because there is no higher power than God.
As in the case of Pharaoh, God set Pharaoh against His Will and hardened his heart in order to fulfil His plan that no one can alter. God is in charge and He is in supreme control of His plans that will ultimately bring us all into His perfect Will for us all.
It has helped me to learn the difference between will and purpose or plan, that is otherwise hidden and obscured in Rom 9 : 19 through the use of the word will instead of purpose or plan. :D
Peace be with you
Arcturus :)
John:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on January 12, 2007, 02:58:35 PM ---Hello Chris R and Bobf
You both mention Rom 9 : 19 in your posts. 8)
From what I have learnt in LOF… ;D
The word ‘will’ used in this Scripture is only used one other time in Act 27:43
The translation of this word is more correctly translated ‘purpose’. Seen in this light we can ask the question who has resisted God’s Will? The answer is everyone!
But who has resisted, thwarted or prevented God’s purpose or plan? No one because there is no higher power than God.
As in the case of Pharaoh, God set Pharaoh against His Will and hardened his heart in order to fulfil His plan that no one can alter. God is in charge and He is in supreme control of His plans that will ultimately bring us all into His perfect Will for us all.
It has helped me to learn the difference between will and purpose or plan, that is otherwise hidden and obscured in Rom 9 : 19 through the use of the word will instead of purpose or plan. :D
Peace be with you
Arcturus :)
--- End quote ---
Arcturus,
Going by what you just mentioned, correct me if Im wrong but; is it reasonable to think that all of us are against Gods perfect will to carry out His purpose?
Peace,
John
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello John
All have sinned! That means we have all been in opposition and have resisited Gods Will. We start out in carnality that is deep seated hatred for God. Then, in God's perfect plan and timing, He through His goodness changes us through repentence either through force of revelation as in Paul on His way to Damascus, or through trials and tribulations that bring us to contriteness of spirit and humbleness of heart. Either way, it is a gift of God that changes any one from carnal to spiritual because this is done of and by His Spirit alone. He draggs us to His Son and His Son is the author and finisher of our faith.
Hope this helps a little.
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
gmik:
Gosh, these were great responses...slowly the dawn breaks....especially Romans 9-11.
That is pretty clear! ; Thanks to all. I have some study & meditating to do along with some repentance. Who am I to question Gods' plan when I don't really understand it.
I do rejoice that God has put it in me to want w/ all my heart to know Him and live for Him.
Lord forgive me when I think I could do it any better :'(
love,
gena
JB:
Sorin,
I was wondering if you or any of the other members had ever run across this definition of free will:
Free will is the ability to choose any at all of the moral options offered in a given situation.
Just curious
JB
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