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Is God closed trinity
TimothyVI:
In Rays article, Is God a closed trinity or an expanding family, he says that
the Holy Ghost is never called God.
What is your take on Acts 5:3-4. I don't think that Ray touched on that particular
scripture.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Is not Peter inferring that the Holy Ghost is God?
I still attend church for now. But I do not believe in the trinity, or many of their other false doctrines.
Tomorrow I am attending a bible study class in which the pastor is going to discuss the trinity.
I would like to be able to refute that one scripture if possible.
I know, I know. I can not try to change his mind. I just want to be prepared to give a good
reason for my stance. I have many good reasons, but this one verse is a road block for me.
Tim
Tim
Chris R:
Dear Tim,
I'm sorry that this may not answer your question completely, but far to many times folks come here for "ammunition"so they can "one up" there pastors or church friends on their next encounter.
Read all you can, God chooses who are his, this journey is sometimes rather lonely, you will not convince one single person of anything, Be the best person you can be.
Gods Spirit is not seperate from God... Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
There is so much material on this one subject, I hope you read all of it. hundreds and hundreds of pages dealing with this and other questions.
Peace
Chris R
longhorn:
Tim, you just got some of the greatest advise from Chris that anyone could give you.
Love in Christ
Longhorn
TimothyVI:
--- Quote from: Chris R on January 11, 2007, 08:15:08 PM ---Dear Tim,
I'm sorry that this may not answer your question completely, but far to many times folks come here for "ammunition"so they can "one up" there pastors or church friends on their next encounter.
Read all you can, God chooses who are his, this journey is sometimes rather lonely, you will not convince one single person of anything, Be the best person you can be.
Gods Spirit is not seperate from God... Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
There is so much material on this one subject, I hope you read all of it. hundreds and hundreds of pages dealing with this and other questions.
Peace
Chris R
Very good advice indeed Chris. However I fear that you missunderstood my question as well as my motive.
My Pastor is also my best friend. That is one of the few reasons that I still attend church. Otherwise I may have
come out of her months ago. He says that I am the iron against iron that keeps him sharp.
I never try to find ammunition to "one up" him. I only find ammunition to defend my position for my own sake.
And if possible to help him see my way of thinking. That is what Ray does as well.
We usually end our debates by agreeing to disagree.
I merely thought that since Acts 5:3-4 seemed to contradict what Ray said " the Holy Spirit was never called God"
that someone here might be able to give me a clearer insight. I would have emailed Ray about it but really did not want to wait
four or five months for an answer.
Your answer did not help much but I will meditate on those scriptures that you gave me, thank you for responding.
Tim
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Robin:
Ray responds pretty quickly most of the time Tim. You could give it a try. There was only one email of mine that took a long time. He replied to the others within a week or two. I thought I read somewhere where he commented on this, but I wasn't able to find it for you today. I'll post it if I see it.
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