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sj:
Tim,

Ray is correct in stating that the scriptures never refer to the Holy Spirit as God, but it most certainly does refer to the Holy Spirit being a part of God.

Remember God is spirit.(John 4:24) and He is the Father of all Spirits (Hebrews 12:9).

The way I understand it is that the Holy Spirit is not a separate “person” in a trinity but rather the Holy Spirit is the essence of who God is.  After all what made Christ “the image of the invisible God”? It was the Spirit of God or the fullness of God that dwelled in Him that made the fleshly form of Jesus God.

Look at Colossians 1:15-19

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.

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Phi 2:6
Who, being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging to be equal with God,

Now that same fullness or spirit returned as a comforter in the elect…

John 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The Holy Spirit of God, (not the Holy Spirit who is God)  was present there in Acts 5 in the elect, the body of Christ here on earth… which is why Peter could say “Thou hast not dealt falsely with men but, with God.”

Hope this helps you overcome your road block!

God’s Peace
Josh

Redbird:
I have thought the Holy Ghost and holy spirit are different. The Holy Ghost being God working through us, and the holy spirit OF GOD, as being the comforter and wisdom, and so much more! It always confuses me when people interchange these two titles. Any thoughts?

Lisa

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Lisa,

  Sure.  Think about this for a second.  Prince of Peace.  Lion of Judah.  Branch of David?, Holy One.  God with Us.  Do you know whom I am talking about?  Are there 5 different people.  No, I am talking about Jesus Christ.

  It can get very confusing.  This is where a concordnace probably would help.  Or do a simple web search and bring up the synonyms for the Holy Sprit and Holy Ghost.  I have heard him as the Comforter as well.  What helped me understand Jesus more, was the poster with all the titles.  The titles are not the person they are a symbol for the aspects we want to focus on.  Does this make sense?

  Here are some titles to get you going.

  1. The Spirit of God
  2. The Spirit of Christ
 3.  The Eternal Spirit
 4.  The Spirit of Truth
 5. The Spirit of Grace
 6.  The Spirit of Life
 7. The Spirit of Glory
 8. The Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation
 9. The comforter
 10. The Spirit of Promise
 11.  The Spirit of Holiness
 12.  The Spirit of Faith
 13. The Spirit of Adoption
 
  I know that there are more somewhere.  I have the Scriptures where these are used.  I will post them if you need them.  Let me know if you are interested,  I hope this helps.

  Sincerely,


  Anne C. McGuire

TimothyVI:
Thank you Josh,
That was actually very helpful. I now also see the Holy Spirit as the
representative of God, and if you lie to His representative, you lie to God.

Lisa, the word pneuma is translated in the NT both as ghost and spirit. So I don't think there is
any differentiation between the two. But again, I am obviously still learning.

Tim

Redbird:
Thank you Anne. I am also still learning - Thanks be to God! and all of you too.

Lisa

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