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iris:
Hi Kat,

Thanks for the work you have put out on categorizing the emails.

May god be with you in this process.


 :)
Iris

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Kat,

  If you get lost.  We will come looking for you in the tangled halls of the e-mails.


  Sincerely,




  Anne C. McGuire

TimothyVI:

--- Quote from: Kat on January 12, 2007, 08:45:35 PM ---

Hi Tim,

Joh 4:24  God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."

Most translations do not use a spirit any more, because God is not limited to being a spirit.
He is spirit and invisible, but He is everywhere at the same time, omnipresent.
This might sound like I am nit picking, but just wanted to clear up He is not a spirit  :)

mercy, peace, and love


Nit pick away Kat. It helps me to look more closely at each word in scriptures, and try to discern their meaning. ;D

Tim
Kat



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Deborah-Leigh:


As a previously indoctrinated brain washed and deceived Catholic….what completely thoroughly nailed into the correct perspective about the Trinity heresy was this found under L. Ray Smith e-mails 17 …..

Remember that Paul said we no longer know Christ according to the flesh. And Christ never appeared to the Apostles after Pentecost IN THE FLESH. Christ went back to the Father, but He said He would not leave us comfortless, but that He would send a comforter. He also said that it would be the "spirit of truth" and that it came TO Christ from the Father and now it IS CHRIST'S to do as He will with it.
Then who or what is this comforter, this 'parakletos'?  God's Word tells us. John is the only writer who uses this word 'parakletos.' So where else does he use it?  I John 2:1:
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.  And if any man sin, we have an advocate [Greek: PARAKLETOS!!!] with the Father, JESUS CHRIST the Righteous" (I John 2:1)!!!
There it is! Jesus Christ IS THE COMFORTER. Jesus Christ IS THE PARAKLETOS!

RTA:
I've read the article of Ray on the "closed Trinity or expanding Family" and was thinking about Isaiah: 9:6 where it says:

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

In the light of Ray's insights in the above mentioned article, what do you(anyone here) think about this verse?


--- Quote ---The way I understand it is that the Holy Spirit is not a separate “person” in a trinity but rather the Holy Spirit is the essence of who God is.  After all what made Christ “the image of the invisible God”? It was the Spirit of God or the fullness of God that dwelled in Him that made the fleshly form of Jesus God.

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I quoted this from Sj's posting, for maybe it might shed some light on my question... could Isaiah 9:6 refer to the indwelling fullness of the Father, which gives the child(the Son) referred to in Isaiah 9:6 the name "everlasting Father"? (and "mighty G'd")...

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