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Resurrection of the Dead
iris:
This has been a really good thread.
I have learned much, and it has cleared a few things up for me.
Thanks!!!
Iris
Deborah-Leigh:
Yes Dwight
Once saved always saved is a dangerously naive and foolish assumption yet... to the none lost Glory of God, ALL will be saved!
Iris I am encouraged that you have found clarity through this thread. I think I can venture to say without drawing too much criticism that, it makes the outpouring of the heart worthwhile and rewarding for all of us I think.
Peace to you all
Arcturus :)
Deborah-Leigh:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 18, 2007, 06:26:11 PM ---
Hi Arcturus,
That was very eloqculately put.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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Thank you Kat. It is always pleasing to recieve encouragement. It is painful enought to receive correction so when encouragement comes, it is sweet :D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
rocky:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on January 15, 2007, 06:08:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: rvhill on January 15, 2007, 05:22:30 PM ---I kind of answered this in the sharing UR thread
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2804.45.html
The lake of fire is God and his believers. The beast is the son of perdition, The son of perdition sit in the temple God. We are the temple of God. Everything goes in to the lake of fire. So if everyone is a worshiper of the beast then who is saved?
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Hi RV,
It's true that everyone at some point will have the beast displaced or purged out of them, for the elect in the present life through chastisement, trials and tribulation where we are active, (painfully active at times) in judging ourselves. The "overcomers" through the Spirit of Christ become this symbolic, spiritual Lake of Fire for the Fall Harvest who are raised to the White Throne Judgement.
All will eventually enter the Kingdom, in their own season, in His time, some will receive few stripes and some will receive many, for some it will be minor adjustments and others will be totally overhauled depending on the condition of their heart, on their steadfast embrace of the idol within.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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Here are some questions I have. So far, what i understand is the judgment on the house of God is now. Judgment is to purge and burn the carnal out of us. It's not enough to trust in Christ's righteousness to get us in the first resurrection. But rather, Christ's righteousness has to be worked out through us. Very few will have this happen.
Now my question is, will these few be 100 percent righteous, living a complete sin free life?? If not, then what is God's cut off; 99 percent, 80 percent, 51 percent in order to be in the first resurrection. Do only some believers receive 100 percent of Christ's righteousness living through them, and 100 percent death to the carnal self. While the rest of us go through a partial carnal, partial Christ life?
Some will say it's impossible to live 100 percent of the time in the spirit, and as long as there is flesh body, we will sin. Well then, it seems to me, noone will ever be in the first resurrection.
Seems to me that even Paul wasnt' sure he "hit the cut off point" to be in the first resurrection.
Sure seems to me this type of thinking leads to focus on carnal self, focus on flesh and trying to measure the progress of the death to flesh, rather than on Christ's finished work at the cross, and trusting that he is my righteousness, and when i sin, it is no longer me, but sin in me.
Arrrr, just wish I had some peace of mind.
Redbird:
Now, you're sounding like a bear, Rocky.....you all are so beautiful!! I just have to smile, because there is so much wisdom out there on this forum. And a bit of truth in all.
Peace,
Lisa
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