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ciy:
Man, that was a flurry of activity.
It is amazing how that beast in us can make us flare up and start reasoning with our own understanding. We need to realize that it is Christ in us that will bring us to salvation. He works from the inside/out.
We should take heed lest we fall because no one is assured of being chosen unless we are faithful to the end.
We cannot judge someone in another forum until we get close enough to them to see their fruits. It is all of God and not of us. We cannot love someone else better than our families of ourselves, but Christ in us can and does. How can God love the Christ in me more than he loves the Christ in my next door neighbor? It is the same Christ.
If I show favor to my son on friday night and do not show favor to my daughter on friday night, it does not mean I love my daughter less than I love my son. Her time of favor may come on saturday night, but I love her the same as my son. It really is all a matter of the heart. Focus on God and seek Him with all of your heart then do what your heart desires. That appears to me to be at the heart of Ray's teachings.
Hope I am helping this situation and not hurting. I started to stay on the side lines but I had to put my foot in and probably did.
God loves you all and I do too.
CIY
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on January 31, 2007, 03:23:18 PM ---While it is true God is not a respector of persons and their works on their own merit He does love some more than others,
Mal 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
Mal 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother?
saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
Mal 1:3 And I hated (loved less) Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Rom 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness93 with God? God forbid.
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
This seems to say not all are loved equally in this age.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
--- End quote ---
Bobby,
There are unbelievers, the called and the chosen, who are receiving the grace of His love in this age? Are they not receiving the bounty of His love (through chastisement) now, or in their natural lives whatever century they lived in? The rest of humanity will be brought to Him in the next age, even Esau!
Sometimes I think Universal Salvation should be termed Ultimately Saved, either in this age or the next.
As far as the verses I quoted they are not my words but the words of the Lord through Malachi and Paul.
There are more where they came from. ;)
His Peace and Wisdom to you Brother,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Does anyone want to comment on Romans 9?
hebrewroots98:
THE GREEK DEFINITIONS OF 'LOVE':
1. AGAPE'-(UNCONDITIONAL LOVE) (AS IN: YESHUA HAS LOVED EVERY HUMAN BEING THAT GOD EVER CREATED, ENOUGH TO DIE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM, WITH NO STRINGS ATTATCHED)
2-PHILEO-(FRIENDSHIP LOVE)- (THE LOVE THAT FRIENDS SHARE)
3-STORGE'-(FAMILY/RELATIVES TYPE OF LOVE)- (MY LOVE FOR MY IMMEDIATE AND EXTENDED FAMILY RELATIVES)
4-EROS- (SEXUAL LOVE)- (HUSBAND AND WIFE'S PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP/SEXUAL)
I PRAY THAT THIS SHEDS SOME LIGHT TO THIS THREAD. :)
Craig:
Thanks for posting that 'Susan, I tried but couldn't find it. 8)
Craig
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