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Bradigans:
--- Quote ---Were the statutes and judgments form Moses or God?
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Somebody let me know if i stand to be corrected, but i believe the statutes and judgments were from both God and Moses.
Let me explain. Exodus 7:1 - And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet (mouthpiece, exegesis). Christ came to exegesis (to declare) God and bring Him out into the physical open. Matthew 1:23 - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Aaron was to Moses (sort of speak) what Christ is to God. An intermediary. Moses was Aaron's God (sort of speak). All of that (the consistency of the Mosaic law) was a type or portrait of God and Christ. i believe this is why Moses was the only man that could stand before God. He was God, but in figure only...
IN HIS LOVE,
Bradford
Deborah-Leigh:
Hebrews 9 : 15 Christ the Messiah (not the OT not the letter of the Law and not the Torah) CHRIST THE MESSIAH is therefore the Negotiator and Mediator of an entirely new agreement, testament, covenant, so that those who are called and offered it may receive the fulfillment of the promised inheritance - since A DEATH has taken place which rescues and delivers and redeems them from the transgressions committed under the old first agreement.
The approach offered by your friend Mickyd, appears to me to be one that wants to bypass the life death and resurrection of Christ Jesus and give importance to the OT as the saviour of man kind. The law does not save. The law giver has given the law and saves from the unattainable prerequisites of the law and He is CHRIST. CHRIST is not only the God of the OT, HE IS THE YESTERDAY TODAY AND THE TOMORROW ALPHA AND OMEGA EVER LIVING GOD.
The Torah is the old and we are warned not to put the old with the new.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Kat:
Hi Bradford,
I found this email from Ray's which explains about the kingdom.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1529.0.html -------------------------
Hi Ray,
I hope it's okay to call you Ray. I know it's a bit casual, but I feel like I know you. I've read much of the writings on your web-site and appreciate your insights. You have given me much to think about and digest. Obviously, this is very different from what I was taught in my Catholic/Baptist upbringing, so I just want to make sure I understand how all the pieces of this divine puzzle fit together.
My question is this: In 2 Cor. 6: 9+10, Jesus says that specific sinners will not inherit the "Kingdom of God". To what does the Kingdom of God refer? An actual place (heaven) or a state of mind? Does he mean that they will never inherit it? And how does that fit with your view that there is no "eternal damnation"? (I hope this doesn't sound sarcastic in any way. This is a very sincere question that I am having difficulty understanding).
Thanks for any response you have time to give. I'm sure you are overwhelmed with e-mails.
In Christ,
Laura
PS~ Have you ever written specifically about the parable of the Wedding Banquet? That's another one that gives me trouble. If you have it somewhere on your web-site, could you please direct me to it? Thank you.
Dear Laura:
The "Kingdom of God" is the kingdom that will rule the nations under the Kingship of Jesus Christ, composed of lesser kings, lords, priests, and judges. These kings, lords, priests, and judges, are composed of the ranks of God's Chosen Elect Saints.
Only those worthy of the First resurrection from the death will ever rule with Christ in the Kingdom of God. Those who are judged, purified and saved in the Great White Throne Judgment will be in God's family, but they will never be rulers with Christ.
And don't ask any more detailed questions on this, because it would take hours to answer you, and I just don't have the time. Much of this material is already covered in my Lake of Fire series. Hope you understand.
God be with you,
Ray
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As for the other scripture,
Luke 17:20 - The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Romans 14:17 - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
The Kingdom is Spirit, so it cannot be observed by those on earth, because Spirit is invsible (1Tim. 1:17, Heb. 11:27). As for the last part of verse 20, it means it is present in all believers as the kingdom is being built through them.
In Rom. 14 again we are talking about Spirit, so there is no need to eat or drink, and the fruit of the Spirit is righteousness, peace, and joy among others.
I hope this helps you see what I'm trying to say :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Mickyd:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on February 03, 2007, 06:56:37 PM ---The approach offered by your friend Mickyd, appears to me to be one that wants to bypass the life death and resurrection of Christ Jesus and give importance to the OT as the saviour of man kind. The law does not save. The law giver has given the law and saves from the unattainable prerequisites of the law and He is CHRIST. CHRIST is not only the God of the OT, HE IS THE YESTERDAY TODAY AND THE TOMORROW ALPHA AND OMEGA EVER LIVING GOD.
The Torah is the old and we are warned not to put the old with the new.
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Actually, he says that we are to keep the entire Law of Moses, the whole 600+ commandments, while we are in the flesh because they are "his commandments" and if anyone says they love God and keeps not his commandments, he's a liar.
I've given him scripture to the contrary, but he turns them around to mean something differant. He's out there.....I'm at a loss.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Mickyd
You wrote :
Actually, he says that we are to keep the entire Law of Moses, the whole 600+ commandments, while we are in the flesh because they are "his commandments" and if anyone says they love God and keeps not his commandments, he's a liar.
I've given him scripture to the contrary, but he turns them around to mean something differant. He's out there.....I'm at a loss.
Sounds to me your friend is in bondage....you say "He's out there"...so what are you doing with him? YOU know that he is out there so YOU are the one who see's! Your yolk need not be what he says but what Christ is and HIS yolk is light.
Your friend has not been given to know that yet and he assumes that works will give him salvation. There are 1050 commandments in the NT alone of which if you deleate repeats there are some 800. Christ has fulfilled the commandments and it is HIS faith that has won for Him HIS status of SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. This is a GOD THE FATHER given title not a OT stipulation upon man to achieve. CHRIST WILL COME AGAIN. HE Christ who was dead and now lives WILL COME AGAIN. Christ is the LIVING SPIRIT OF GOD.
Why do you think YOU are at a loss? Your friend is the one who is at the loss and out there and you can see it!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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