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Jesus and the tomb
TimothyVI:
--- Quote from: Sorin on March 04, 2007, 03:40:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Craig on March 04, 2007, 03:25:48 PM ---But he was risen, in a spiritual body, what does his earthly body have to do with anything?
He was seen many times in a spiritual body, not his eartly body.
Will we die and be risen in our eartlhy bodies?
No we won't and Jesus wasn't either.
Craig
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Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
So obviously, if they find his body in the tomb, then the NT writers lied, when they wrote "he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him [it's supposed to be empty].
So if it;s not empty, then houston we have a problem. What happened to his earthly body then? I always looked at it like Jesus' earthly body was transformed into a spiritual body, that's why it wasn't there.
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I agree with you Sorin. If they could prove that the bones were those of Jesus ( which is impossible to prove anyway),
it would add fuel to the story that his body was merely secreted away, and the desciples lied when they claimed that He was risen and
the tomb was empty.
Even though it can not be proven, these kind of stories are just a continuing attack on Christianity.
Tim
TimothyVI:
I guess I should have said followers of Christ. ;D
Tim
B18bhatch:
John 2:19
"Jesus answered and
said unto them, Destroy
this temple, and in three
days I will raise it up."
skydreamers:
Hi Arcturus, I've wondered about what you posted as well, in fact just in the last couple of days (coincidence?). You said:
--- Quote ---Will some of us be raised to a physical body again as was Lazarus and others who Jesus restored to life?
Will perhaps the many and the lost be raised to physical life to continue life on earth as Christ and His Elect rule and straighten out things through the LOF WTJ?
Any thoughts?....answers....Huh
Peace to you
Arcturus
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And I was thinking of these scriptures:
Ezekiel 37:1-14 ESV
1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of the LORD and set me down in the middle of the valley; it was full of bones.
2 And he led me around among them, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley, and behold, they were very dry.
3 And he said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, you know."
4 Then he said to me, "Prophesy over these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5 Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live, and you shall know that I am the LORD."
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I prophesied, there was a sound, and behold, a rattling, and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
8 And I looked, and behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them. But there was no breath in them.
9 Then he said to me, "Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord GOD: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live."
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
11 Then he said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.'
12 Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves and raise you from your graves, O my people. And I will bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people.
14 And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I am the LORD; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD."
What are these scriptures all about? This sounds like people are being resurrected to "physical fleshly" bodies. Is this what is going on and if not then what does this all mean? Are these people being raised to the millennial rule do you think? It sounds so bizarre...
Peace, Diana
Deborah-Leigh:
Diana
That is some interesting and applicable scripture! But before I get into what you have posted allow me to thank you very much for the transcribe you have done for all of us. I am extremely grateful for that study in writing. Thank you so much! 8)
Now…..yes….lets see what we can come up with here. The scriptures that trigger my question are these ones. Firstly Jesus says in Matt 5 : 5 Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the EARTH.
Rom 8 : 19 For even the whole creation all nature waits expectantly and longs earnestly for God’s sons to be made known, waits for the revealing, the disclosing of their son ship
Will the Kingdom of God have an earthly phase? We know that the spiritual is invisible to the carnal man.
1 Tim 6 : 16 Who alone has immortality in the sense of exemption from every kind of death and lives in unapproachable light, Whom no man has ever seen or can see.
John 1 : 18 No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom in the intimate presence of the Father, He has declared Him, He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known.
Will there be human representatives who will mediate between heaven and Earth. Who will Govern between earthly Nations and Christ and His Elect in the Kingdom to come? Will these representatives be Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…?
Luke 13 : 28 There will be weeping and grinding of teeth WHEN YOU SEE Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God…..29And people will come from east and west and from north and south and sit down, feast at table in the kingdom of God.
Diana, I think God is using us to stir up some questions and excitement in anticipation of what we are going to see in Ray’s part D soon to come!....That’s what I think sister! ;D ;D ;D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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