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What religios in Babylon?
Kat:
Hi Arcturus,
Yes, I know that statement of Ray's, it is in the Love audio/transcript.
I will bring it forward :)
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But I have checked it out for many, many hours now, and I understand that the Bible does not contradict in this area. God - Jesus Christ, never said you have heard, them of old say, you should hate your enemies.
First of all, God never taught to hate your enemies. Well, where did they hear that of old? About five times in the book of Psalms, by David, who went to his death bed hating his enemies, telling his son to kill them and make it bloody. That was King David, not God. But people read the Psalms and so you heard it said. Yes, you did hear it said, but not of God.
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat
YellowStone:
Tim wrote:
The problem comes when we believe that every word in the bible is inspired by God.
I am not sure that everything that was said by anyone in the scriptures are to be considered the word of God.
The scriptures were a whole bunch of stories, within which were some spoken words of God.
The scriptures themselves tell us to not believe everything that is written because the scribes lied.
Jer 8:8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made {it} into a lie.[/i]
Tim I am sure your words will cause many to think or say: "What is he saying? That the bible is not Gods word!!!" However, what you say is not untrue and I believe Arcturus nailed it when she wrote about the differences of "relative" vs "absolute" thinking.
However, Jesus himself spoke always so that his true message would not be understood.
Mat 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
This of course, puts the average reader of the bible in quite a predicament, for without the eyes to see and the ears to hear, the words mean next to nothing. Likewise, their praise can be likened to the sacrifices that you mentioned.
Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
A very sobering thought indeed. So, if reading the Scriptures with eyes that cannot discern the truth and ears that cannot hear it, where can such as these learn the truth about God?
The Scriptures themselves give us the answer. God does not hide himself from anyone, righteous or unrighteous.
Rom 1:18 ¶
* For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; [/color] Rom 1:19
* Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
Rom 1:20
* For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21
* Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22
* Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
God does not "hide" himself in Scripture, nor does he hide away in the select minds of a few in the many churches that he dragged us out from.
I find the above Scripture to be a warning for us all. Because that which may be known of God has be shown us; for God himself has shown us. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that we are without excuse. [Paraphrased Rom 1:19,20]
Love in Christ,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
Brilliant Kat!
OF COURSE! :D
AMEN! It really feels like we are getting the privilage of clearer focus on the ways and purposes and meanings of GOD! it is thrilling to be coming to know and comprehend God as He has chosen to be revealed to us through His Son!
Thank you for posting that!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Mickyd:
Babylon simply means confusion.....we are all part of Babylon until we come to the knowledge of the truth and are aligned in "one mind"......the mind of Christ.
Deborah-Leigh:
Right Mickyd!
Your post made me think of this scripture:
1 Tim 1 :7 For God did not give us a spirit of timidity of cowardice, of craven and cringing and fawning dear, but He has given us a spirit of power and of love and of calm and well-balanced mind and discipline and self-control.
For me the spirit as spoken of is the Spirit of Christ Jesus. It was He who wasn't timid...Oh you fools you snakes etc.. :D..it was He who was not a coward...He went to the cross...He did not have craven and cringing or fawning fear...He spoke up to Pontius Pilate and it is He who is the Spirit of Power and Love, calm and well-balanced mind of discipline and self-control and without HIM we are timid, cowards and self decieved beasts but not forever! One day we too will have a share of who HE IS. Even now some have the fruits of His Sprit.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Arcturus
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