:lol: Forgive me but I have to take the time to laugh a bit. Few of your eyes were "opened" to see that the righteous judge is referring to God not me. Definitely NOT me. This is exactly what I'm talking about. The tendency to mock everyone that does not share your point of view is absolutely there. If I came sharing your point of view, you may have ignored my screen name believing I was referring to God. Anyhow, the guy that wrote "righteous (dirty rags.......) judge", I think you would want to take that back. Besides you seem not to understand my question at all. You said my questions are answered and "refuted" (I wonder how) in the scripture, yet, I don't see any scripture in your post. You don't have to quote the scripture. A simple reference would do. All you did was start up an argument about free-will and eternal torture which is far from my intentions. All I did was assume your point of view then asked "why you do certain things". As for your question, it's outside the scope of my intentions. If I answer you now, I won't get an answer to my initial questions. All I will get is arguments why I am wrong and some mockery.
I've been on this forum before and I know a little of what goes on. You attack everyone that does not share your point of view with mockery and that is the truth. Sorin said I should read Ray's hate mails. I ask, what has that got to do with what I'm saying. Just because someone does something to you does not mean you should retaliate. Even those "beasts in Babylon" you talk about get hate mails. So, what's your point. Also, Shibboleth I'm not trying to argue about freewill. Even if I brought forth incriminating scriptures, you'll rather stick to your new found "truth". The way I see it, you're unwilling to reason with anybody. You just want to win me over to your side or mock me if I refuse to convert. Another name for that would be sarcasm.
Hillsbororiver, on the contrary, I've read a lot of Ray's writings. I agree with him on some points like the spiritual state of the "church" (I know you don't even believe that word is biblical but allow me this once). The greediness and all is sadening. Enforcing thithes and many other things are going on. However, what you fail to realize is that this does not happen everywhere. Those places that have not been affected by "American gospel" don't do those things. I would assume that most of you here are from the states. I doubt if I would see a chinese who is resident in China on this forum. If you are one let me see you. I would allow one or two but there wouldn't be much of them. Most of you are here because of the state of the American "church" otherwise, you wouldn't be. I'm not going to argue this however.
Zander, you're the closest to understanding my question. Your answer was on point but proofless. You just gave another name for it- "trivial tittle tattle". Do you think it is right to rejoice or be glad when an evil person gets what's coming to him? Bobbys43, I'm glad you can get along with someone in the Catholic church but that is just your story. I wasn't referring to you. Rather, I was referring to you guys, generally. Anyway, I'm quick to point out that it's easier to be free with words with no love at all in a forum than it is real life where someone can identify you. If we were in a round table, we would all act up and be covered with smiles and pretence but in a forum, "the beast" comes out, right? Bobbys43, you could only speak for yourself. I wonder if you could speak for others. Another point I noticed is that you guys generalise too much. If something happens to one person, there's no doubt that it happens to everyone. Bobbys43, shibboleth, Sorin, sunset_drama_king all generalized very clearly. If I missed your name, you only barely got off the hook.
Bobbys43 talked about himself and that must mean it applies to everyone as well. Shibboleth assumes that because the Lord opened Lydia's heart, it must mean that the Lord must open everyone's heart too. Sorin assumes that because her parents react one way, all Christians are like that. I must say that you are dead wrong on that one. O men! DEAD WRONG!! Apparently we have experienced things differently. sunset_drama_king assumes he knows my heart for a fact. Look at the way he states things as fact when they are all wrong. I think you want to take some things back. This much I would write for now.