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Sorin:
Another from the email section, this was titled assumptions.
"All these thousands of years and all of these Christians wrong. Thank God that God finally sent you to explain everything to us. I am jumping on your bandwagon because only you and your followers will be saved.
whew!
Dear Matt:
Your false assumptions, not mine.
Ray
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I just want to say that anyone who follows Ray will most assuredly not be saved.
Deborah-Leigh:
I believe that the false assumption that Ray was refering to was where the writer assumes that Ray and only Ray and his "followers" will be saved. Ray doesn't teach that at all. Ray shows us what God says that ALL will be saved in the end. ;D
As for Ray, I follow Ray's teachings....I think I would have a pretty difficult time literally following Ray the man! I am not interested in following Ray the man...but I do agree with Ray's teachings and am a student...I study...what Ray teaches! I think that makes me a follower! :D
The Lord...Eph 4 : 11... gave some, apostles; and some prophets; and some evangelists, and some pastors and TEACHERS.
Ray says he is a teacher but I think he is being modest...I think he is all of the above! I know some of us agree that he is of the Elect!...what would that make some of us.... ::) Heretics I think ;D ;D ..worse than followers! ;D
Ray is a teacher. He offers us a school of thought that happens to be revelations, wisdom, insights and truths from the word of God and from what God has shown to him.
I think that is what Ray meant....All will be saved because that is what he teaches and that is what God says.
In Pauls day there were those who "followed" agreed with and accepted Pauls teachings and there were those who did not. the same can be said for Jesus. Come "follow me".....and so we do...we follow HIM who speaks via our teacher!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Sorin on March 04, 2007, 03:48:37 PM ---Another from the email section, this was titled assumptions.
"All these thousands of years and all of these Christians wrong. Thank God that God finally sent you to explain everything to us. I am jumping on your bandwagon because only you and your followers will be saved.
whew!
Dear Matt:
Your false assumptions, not mine.
Ray
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I just want to say that anyone who follows Ray will most assuredly not be saved.
--- End quote ---
Hi Sorin,
I agree, in the strict sense what you have posted is absolutely true. I am speaking for myself here as I do not "follow Ray" as we are instructed to follow Christ but as Ray would tell anyone himself, he is a teacher, he has been called to give the "Good News" by the foolishness of preaching. He is not seeking followers but is providing material for students (this is what I consider myself) who will use this treasure to move forward in their own personal walk with the Lord.
Now as to listening to what Ray teaches and giving much weight to the things that have been by the grace of God revealed to him that is a whole different topic, there have been some who have passed through this Forum that have believed they have progressed to a deeper understanding of the plan and purpose of our heavenly Father and His Son. Have they done this with sound scriptural witnesses? Or have "feelings" and private (without much if any scripture) interpretations been the cornerstone of their assertions?
Look at the volume and wealth of information on Bible Truths, consider whether these others who have made bold statements have produced anything significant in their one or two small points of contention.
Unfortunately this sort of topic is a breeding ground for strife and misunderstanding, I am sure this was not your motivation or intention but I wanted to get this perspective on the table before a feeding frenzy develops.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Hi Arcturus,
You were posting as I was formulating my thoughts, you stated this very well.
Thank you,
Joe
Sorin:
Let me restate what I meant with this verse.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Joe, I believe you understood what I meant, but just to make myself more clear to everybody else.
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