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Sorin:
Gena,

I know what you're saying. If L. Ray Smith were a "False Profit" what is he getting out of it? Certainly not money and fame. So why would a "False profit" go through the trouble of writting all those papers, putting up a website, and paying for it, and all the research and study, and put in all the effort and time if he is not benefiting from it? And by benefiting from it I mean
what you were saying about living in a mansion and owning luxury cars and his and her jets, and a mistress too. ;) It just doesn't add up.

So let's look at it from the christians' point of view. He is a false profit even though he doesn't benefit financialy from 'deceiving people, so then what does he get out of it?
What did he strike a deal with the devil, to decieve as many people as possible so that they too wil end up in hell, with him and the devil.... wow, he'd have to be a real sucker to do that and not even get to live it up in this life. It just doesn't add up.

gmik:
Exactly!!!!

Jackie Lee:
I just discovered his writtings a couple months ago.
I had been searching for the truth and wondering why I just couldn't bring myself to go to any church anymore.
 I had been so disappointed in church it seemed so superficial I felt like I just didn't belong anywhere well anyway...
I had been wondering why I seem to be judging myself daily.
I told a relative about my struggles, she said was there anything good I said no not really, she said well you know where that came from then.
She said Satan is trying to make you feel worthless, I didn't argue with her but knew I was being judged and it was right.
There was one day I acted up in front of my daughter by a curse word *my daughter is grown* I felt so bad for doing this I felt like such a failure because her and I had been talking how God was working in our lives.
I tell you that was the weirdest thing the curse word just came out and to be honest I was more shocked than she was.
This is what really made me realize God was showing me things by my worthless feelings.
 The good part it didn't last he got his message to me through my bad actions.
My first post here was something about this and all my failures, It really was good to hear we do go through rough times for our own good.
It was humbling and to feel humble and worthless for a short while helped me realize I am going to be ok.
I am greatful for that and for Ray's writtings and this board it is helping me get to where I need to go on this journey.
I am not saying it is easy my husband can be so uncaring and for years I prayed Lord can you change him to be more loving.
He is not a bad person though just cold and aloof  I knew this when I married him he is very responsible but cold...Lol
Anyway through all of this and there is so much more God is showing me I am where I am supposed to be at this time.
I am so grateful God is teaching me to learn through all of this, So Ray's teaching has been a lifeline to me.
 I don't follow Ray but I know what he is teaching finally explains all of my why God why why?
I am learning through his teachings I am grateful for that and most I am grateful that God saw fit to reveal a bit of truth.
 I say a bit because I don't always see right away.
If I have been wrong on anything I have said about learning from my faults please correct me...I really finally am teachable. I think. :)

snorky:
Just to add one more thing...I found Ray's site when I was researching funding of the figures in the apostate "Religious Right" and clicked on a link for Bible Truths while reading about Pat Robertson's funding sources (an interesting story in itself). Also, I had started serious Bible study on my own at the time (having eschewed Bible Study at the church I was going to at the time because of some false doctrine the pastor was teaching). Because I was searching for the truth, God had revealed to me that certain popular Christian doctrines were absolutely false...and then, He lead me to Ray's site, and the articles blew me away with their incredible truth, the undeniable, proven so completely by use of Scripture, and, in fact, I had never known anyone who could use Scripture the way God has chosen Ray to do so. My point is this: I believe those who "find themselves" on Ray's site are pointed there exactly at the right time when those can handle the truth...as well as for those who are led there to try to debunk what he does, and can't, so they use name calling and damn the man to "hell." I don't "follow Ray", but anyway I'd like to say here "thanks, Ray" all the same.--Deb

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: Rene on March 05, 2007, 05:10:32 PM ---I found this scripture interesting in relation to this topic.

1Timothy 5:17 - Let elders who have presided ideally be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who are toiling in word and teaching.

Ray has been blessed with gift of spiritual understanding and we have been recipients of this blessing.  It is ALL of God!

Peace,

Rene'



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Exactly

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