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who are the 144,000?

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LittleBear:
Hi Kat and Josh,

Thank you very much for your replies. These numbers in scripture are very interesting, although I don't know much about them. If the number 12 represents perfect government, then it makes sense that 144,000 would represent God's elect, those who will reign with Him.

Thank you both for this research. I don't know how you do it. I'm just sort of absorbing everything right now, but one of these days I'm going to try my hand at finding scriptures myself.

Ursula

Kirk:
Hi Kennymac...Let me add my 2 cents worth.  Did you notice there are two separate groups of
144,000?  One sings the Song of Moses and the other sings a song no man knows.  Also, did you
notice something peculiar about the listing of the tribes represented by the 144,000?

Simply, the first "Song of Moses" group includes the 24 elders and is representative of dead
believers, those who are dead and take part in the First Resurrection at the Second Coming, Lake of Fire, Great White Throne Judgement, Restitution of All Things, the Death of Death, the New Heaven and Earth arrival, etc., etc. (all simultaneous events.)

The second group. singing the Song no one Knows, are the Bride of Christ, the Overcomers, the
"Manifested huios of God."

Hope this helps.  It's really harder to explain than understand.

kennymac:
Thank you all for your help,

It really wasn't an issue for me, it was just frustrating that I could not answer my daughter.

 I raised her catholic, then introduced her to a pentecostal church, now, I speak of universal restorationf for all. I am sure she is loosing confidence in me!!

These days I am not saying much at all, not sure if I am correct for taking on this new attitude, but I am begining to believe that each individual is responsible for working out their own salvation. I was thrilled that she was coming to me for answers and then felt so helpless when I could not give her a clear vision of who these 144,000 are.

Peace and love,

Kennymac

Jackie Lee:
Hi Kennymac like you I find myself not saying much it is almost like words want come, even though there are times I feel like I can talk a little about How God will save all people.
 When I do chat a bit most rebuke me when it comes to the truths I have learned.
My family just don't accept my belief so I say very little.
 I feel peace with it. :)
I like you have been in so many different churches over the years they think this is just some phase I am going through.
Through it all though I feel peace I have never had before knowing God's will is being done regardless of me or anyone else.

Bev:

--- Quote ---The 144,000 is a symbolic number that stands for the firstfruits/elect harvested since Jesus' resurrection until He comes again.
--- End quote ---

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was pondering this a few months ago. The symbolic number 144,000 represents the true CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST? 

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