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Kent:

--- Quote ---"…NO MAN might BUY OR SELL, save he that had the MARK OR THE NAME OF THE BEAST, or the NUMBER OF HIS NAME" (Rev. 13:17)?
--- End quote ---


If this is talking about preachers, then what are they buying?

Man
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τίς
tis
tis
An enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object: - a (kind of), any (man, thing, thing at all), certain (thing), divers, he (every) man, one (X thing), ought, + partly, some (man, -body, -thing, -what), (+ that no-) thing, what (-soever), X wherewith, whom [-soever], whose ([-soever]).

This is a generic name for a man, not something more specific regarding those wolves in sheeps clothing that sell deception.

Here it is, KJV
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

ASV
17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, [even] the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.

It's the number if A man, it doesnt use the plural.
It uses the words "buy" and "sell", the same way we use those words.


I am not convinced. Not by a long shot.

But I could be wrong. I will not, however, put all my eggs in this basket and let myself get chipped, numbered,
get a tatoo, take a loyalty oath, worship a man, or any such thing just because someone said that it only deals with church corruption.

skydreamers:
As I understand it, all of mankind has the mark of the beast:

Rev 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him who has a mind calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is the number of mankind, and its number is six hundred sixty-six."

In the original greek the article "a" is absent, and what has been translated as "man" in the KJV is "anthropos" and Thayer includes this in his definition:

1a) generically, to include all human individuals

From what I see, carnal man is the beast and carries this mark.  Those that are either buying or selling books or countless merchandise pertaining to the word of God, especially for the supposed purpose of teaching or learning truths are proving themselves to be still in this carnal beast state.  If you think you need to buy truth from another man, you are the beast. 

Jesus said:

Rev 3:18
I counsel you to buy from Me gold purified by fire, so that you may be rich; and white clothing, so that you may be clothed, and so that the shame of your nakedness does not appear. And anoint your eyes with eye salve, so that you may see.

Rev 21:6
To him who thirsts I will give of the fountain of the Water of Life freely.

Seems to me, what Jesus is selling is free...we can't buy it with money.

2Co 2:17
For we are not as the majority, who are peddling the word of God, but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God in Christ, are we speaking."

This word "peddling" is defined by Thayer as:

1) to be a retailer, to peddle
2) to make money by selling anything
2a) to get sordid gain by dealing in anything, to do a thing for base gain
2b) to trade in the word of God
2b1) to try to get base gain by teaching divine truth
2c) to corrupt, to adulterate
2c1) peddlers were in the habit of adulterating their commodities for the sake of gain

I distrust anyone who is trying to sell me their supposed "revelations of truth" from God. 

Mat 10:8
You have received freely, freely give.

I do not think any Elect of God are out there writing material or giving "seminars" and making money off of it.  (Most people probably wouldn't want to buy what the Elect have to say anyways...they want smooth words to tickle their ears...)

Likewise, I think the Elect are not "buying" (believing or buying literally) anything that churchianity is selling.  They have all but given up looking for truth in Christian bookstores and churches.....

I see it as part of the process of coming out of Babylon. 

Not saying of course that by giving away your knowledge of the scripture you are for certain an Elect of God....but it likely is a huge clue...and at the very least, it's not a sign of the beast...

Peace to you,
Diana

Michael:
(Rev 13:17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This is not talking about buying or selling at Wal-Mart. This is spiritual. What did Christ said in Rev 3:18?

Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire(spiritual baptism that we all have to go through), that thou mayest be rich(spiritually rich) ; and white raiment(spiritual righteousness), that thou mayest be clothed(spiritual truths), and that the shame of thy nakedness(the flesh; carnal) do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye salve(to be anointed the Holy Spirit, which is His spiritual truth) ,that thou mayest see.

What else did Christ say in Mat 10:39 and 16:25?

Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose(destroy) it: and he that loseth(destroys) his life for my sake shall find it.

Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose(destroy) it: and whosoever will lose(destroy) his life for my sake shall find it.

Those that finds his life here on earth are the many called that go in the broad way. Why? Because they were turned over to believe the lie which Satan gives them power and they have the spirit of the false prophet. Which seek after wisdom of men, not of God, which is SELF. All that is in this world is the first beast, the second beast, the lust of the flesh, lust of the eye, and the pride of life. This is the mark, the name, and the number of the name. All these that are not God's elect will worship this apostate church system, which is the physical church, whose father is Satan. He was a liar and a murderer from the beginning. This religious system is still here today which is Mystery, Babylon, the Great, the Mother of Harlots, the Abominations of the Earth.

The number 666 is represents the beast, the false prophet, and the dragon which has power over the other two. Three 6's= three spirits.

Rev 16:13  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the (1)dragon, and out of the mouth of the (2)beast, and out of the mouth of the (3)false prophet.

I hope this may help some. :)

Grace, Peace, and Mercy,

Michael

CDJ:
Michael and Diana, that really hit the spot. The deception is in the carnality of human thought/wisdom, meaning people want to attach a name, face or product to this beast and things like buying and selling, forgetting that it's spiritual. It blows by them and no-one sees it... if carnality could see it, it wouldn't be deception, now would it?

Kent:
I attach no "name face or product" to this beast.
i can see the spiritual meaning of this "beast". I just dont place any trust in it yet.
IMO it is stretching things to the breaking point to use this strictly spiritual definition, when there may also be
a literal definition too, especially with the world situation now.

Not all prophecy is strictly spiritual. Ninevah was a literal city. Damascus will be literally destroyed, Sodom and Gomorrah were literally destroyed as prophesied. Etc. et.

I simply said that I am "hedging my bets" by not getting placed in economic slavery, if we
go to a cashless system.

How many here will let themselves get chipped, based on what you believe now?
Is it worth the risk?
That's a strictly rhetorical question.

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