Hi Darren,
I see what you are saying.
Babylon is the church and that includes governments when they are intangled with her. The world is everything of the flesh.
Joh 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
This is speaking of coming out the ways of the world, the carnal fleshly nature.
This world will come to an end, but that is not speaking of the earth and all life, but this present evil age.
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the end of the world. Amen.
Here is a email of Ray's and an excerpt from Lake of Fire article #9, on this subject.
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is babylon the world, ie, mainly the religious system. of christianity claiming to be the church while being so steeped in worldy affairs?
i understand some call it the church of babylon, but for me there is one church the body of Christ.
while fale christianity is claiming to be the church.
are we told to come out of the world or out of the church???
thank you so much, i hope this makes it to the forum.
peace and love
chuckt
Dear Chuck:
No, Babylon does not claim to be the Church, THEY ARE THE CHURCH.
There are the called and the few chosen. The few chosen come out of the called masses of the congregation. Babylon the church rides the beast. The beast is the world.
God be with you,
Ray
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What is actually spoken of in these two chapters of Isaiah 13 & 14 is the history of world religion and government from the creation of man, through the destruction of man, and the realization of God’s spiritual Mt. Zion filling the universe. All the religions and governments of the world in the history of the world are personified in these two chapters. Isa. 13:1 begins with, "The burden of Babylon…" (organized religion and government against God), and ends with Isa. 14;32b, "That the Lord has founded Zion…" (The spiritual capital of the Universe governing all mankind). It’s all right here for those who have "ears to hear and eyes to see."
Let me give you the history of the world including all future prophecies, in one sentence:
God perfectly planned and recorded His creation of the heavens, angels, the earth, and carnal humanity, who sinned wickedly and were all drowned (save a few); who then reached for their own heaven at the tower of Babel in rebellion to the God Who then scattered them (save a few); who later built Babylon into a great pagan empire which God destroyed (save a few); who have since built many wicked and fornicating Babylons collectively called, Mystery Babylon The Great, whom God warns before utterly destroying again (save a few); and of ‘the Few’ God is creating a New Spiritual Humanity of Son-and-Daughter Saviours like unto Jesus, in New Jerusalem on spiritual Mt. Zion, were ALL will be redeemed (NOT just a few); that God may be "ALL in All"!
Maybe I could shorten it down a smidgen, but there it is. The reality of most of the symbolism of Revelation is contained in that one sentence. "But Mr. Smith, I don’t see ‘666’ anywhere in your sentence." You don’t? I do. I see 666 followed by 777 in nearly every phrase of that sentence. "He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the Churches!"
So far then there is no sign of Satan
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat