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GODSown1:
Hi all,
Im so sorry if this Question has been asked, probably over & over again lol!, But! any how just in case it hasnt, id Love ur guyz views on the ten Commandments, Do we have to still Obey them??, I hope its not a silly Question, Thanx! alL!
muchLOVE!! Pera
Chris R:
Hi Pera,
There is a mountain of truths written on the website www.bibletruths.com
Read all you can, as many times as you can, your questions are not easily answered in a forum, as the answer would take many pages to explain, Ray has answered these questions many times in his writings, you just have to read them.
Peace
Chris R
Kat:
Hi GODSown1,
Here is an email from at covers your question I believe.
http://bible-truths.com/email8.htm#holy ------------------
[Ray Replies]
Dear Byron:
Thank you for your comments and/or questions.
You are not distinguishing between things that differ as the Scriptures admonish us.
It seems hardly anyone knows that "fulfill means." Jesus said that he "fulfilled" the LAW, yet it is taught today in the Church that it YET needs to be fulfilled BY US. What is that? I have never heard a minister yet put the parts of Christ declaration together:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law OR THE PROPHETS: I am not come to destroy, [the law AND THE PROPHETS], but to fulfill [the law AND THE PROPHETS]" (Matt. 5:17).
Now then, did Jesus Christ "fulfill" all of the prophecies concerning Him? Well if He did, then does there REMAIN any that He DID NOT FULFILL? Then why doesn't anyone, it seems, believe that He also and in the very same way fulfilled "the law?"
We are now under a NEW COVENANT [and Hebrews 8 tells us that this NEW covenant is NOT IN ACCORD with the OLD covenant.
The Pharisees kept the old testament law of Moses with its ten commandments. But Jesus said that WE, Believers, must FAR EXCEED the righteousness of the Pharisees. Jesus gave us NEW COMMANDMENTS that are far superior to the old law. Christ's laws are SPIRITUAL laws. The Old Covenant which really IS "the ten commandments" (See Deut. 4:13) was an administration of DEATH. The laws were of the letter (death) not of the spirit (life). See II Cor. 3.
Under the Old Covenant you were to HATE YOUR ENEMIES. Under the New we are to LOVE OUR ENEMIES. Love your enemies is not a slight modification of hating your enemies. Not lusting after a woman is not a slight modification of not committing physical intercourse with a married woman. NOT SWEARING is not a slight modification of swearing! Etc. Can you see this? Under the old covenant one was to love his neighbor as himself. Under the new we are to esteem our neighbor HIGHER than ourselves. Do you see the difference?
Things that were "holy" and have run their course, are NO LONGER Holy. All Israel was Holy. Physical Israel is no longer holy. Sacrifices were HOLY unto the Lord; they no longer are. Tithing was just as specific a law as sacrificing. Tithes were of farm products NOT MONEY. It was paid to the Levites. There are no Levites today. It was kept in storehouses. There are no storehouses today. Go to the nominal Christian church and as for food from their storehouse to feed some poor that you are aware of. They will in all probability TURN YOU AWAY, even though their bank accounts are filled with MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars, often times. There is NO TEMPLE at which the Levites and Priests officiate today. And if you liken the Church today as God's nation of priests as Peter tells us, then we ALL should be receiving tithes, NOT PAYING TITHES!
Byron, Paul NEVER, EVER taught, or collected tithes from the Gentile congregations. Can you not see that? Why did he work with his own hands if he were collecting millions and millions and millions from the HUNDREDS of congregations he founded? Seriously, these are questions that need answering. Paul never taught tithing and he never collected tithes, so why should anyone else who claims to be a minister of Jesus Christ??
Now it is not wrong to support a church or pay a salary to a pastor, but it cannot be in the form of MONEY FROM A VOID LAW OF PRODUCE TITHING.
You are right, we should not CONTINUE TO SIN, and teaching and collecting tithe money from believers IS A GROSS SIN!!!
God be with you,
Ray
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat
YellowStone:
Kat, thanks for posting Ray's wonderful response. :)
Pera,
You might find Christs own words enlightning. You asked:
Im so sorry if this Question has been asked, probably over & over again lol!, But! any how just in case it hasnt, id Love ur guyz views on the ten Commandments, Do we have to still Obey them??, I hope its not a silly Question, Thanx! alL!
Christ said the following:
Mat 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
The last sentence holds the key; we are to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind and love thy neighbour as thyself. However, we can only TRULY do this by following the ten commandments of the law. If we fail in any of the 10, we fail also in Loving God truthfully as well as our neighborm family, friends, etc.
I hope this helps :)
Your brother in Christ,
Darren
GODSown1:
Hi all Thanks, But! lol!
What is this saying then, well more to the point what is JESUS saying here (MATT 5: 17, 19), v 17 "Do Not think that I have came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did Not come to destroy But! to fulfill" (to the fullest), v 19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the Least of these commandments, and Teaches men so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven: But! whoever does and Teaches them, he shall be called the great in the Kingdom of Heaven. And of coz not to mention the 4th Commandment, GOD (JESUS) wrote the 10 commandments with His own finger, TwiCe!!. (COL 1: 15-17), well 4give me if Im not getting it, its just that to Me GOD is everything & what He commands. & I havnt found really anything yet that JESUS says that kwashes! The 10 Commandments. Thanks all, Please if U think U can Help more Please do! lol!
muchLOVE!! Pera
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