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Kat:
Hi GODSown1,
Here is an excerpt from Ray's #11 paper.
It does not mention Matt. 5:17 in particular, but it does explain that the Law(10 commandments) is not done away, but those that obey the spiritual laws that Christ taught must go way beyond the 10 commandments.
http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html --------------------------
CHRIST AFTER THE FLESH VERSUS CHRIST AFTER THE SPIRIT
"Wherefore henceforth know we no man after [according to] the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, YET NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE [after the flesh]" (II Cor. 5:1).
"Therefore if any man be IN Christ, he is a new creature [creation]: old things are passed away; behold ALL THINGS ARE BECOME NEW" (II Cor. 5:17)!
How many Christians believe that "IN Christ" we are a NEW creation and that ALL the old things have passed away and that ALL things are become NEW? How many pastors teach the NEW Covenant?
Christians sing: "Give me that OLD TIME religion—it’s good enough for me."
There was an OLD covenant, and now there is a NEW covenant. Do you know what the NEW COVENANT is? Theologians teach that the New covenant is keeping the OLD covenant, BETTER! That is unscriptural nonsense! They teach that we are to keep the law of Moses, BETTER, and we will fulfill the NEW testament.
Is the New Covenant patterned according to the Old Covenant? Let’s read it:
"For finding fault with them, He says, Behold, the days come says the Lord, when I will make a NEW covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah [he is a JEW who is circumcised in his heart and spirit, Rom. 2:29]: NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENANT that I made with their fathers…" (Heb. 8:8-9).
So then, is the NEW covenant "according" or "NOT according" to the Old covenant?
Then why does the Church continue making the Old Covenant binding on Christians?
Christendom is attempting to believe in the New Covenant, while at the same time trying to live in the Old Covenant. This can’t be done. In fact, Jesus sternly warned against attempting to do such a contradictory and damaging endeavor:
"And He [Jesus] spoke also a parable unto them [the Pharisees]: No man puts a piece of new garment upon an old: if otherwise, then both the new makes a rent [tear], and the piece that was taken out of the new agrees not with the old [‘NOT according with the covenant which I made with their fathers (the OLD Covenant, Heb. 8:9)]. And no man puts new wine into old bottles [wineskins]; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish [be RUINED]. But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. No man also having drunk old wine straightway desires new; for he says, The OLD is better" (Luke 5:36-29).
This is a parable! Jesus is speaking of the Old and New Covenants. We cannot, we dare not, try to put the old with the new. BOTH WILL BE RUINED! Why don’t we believe Jesus? We can’t put the Old and the New together. And true to Jesus’ words, when people come into a knowledge of the New Covenant, they PREFER THE OLD BETTER!
Did you also notice that when we put these two covenants in their proper places (the Old is for babes to bring them to Christ, while the new is for those maturing into Sonship), that they are BOTH PRESERVED? Yes, both are preserved, but only if we don’t MIX THEM. Could anything be clearer.
The "Chosen" live by the New Covenant: The "Called" try to live by the New and the Old Covenants. They have never learned this simple lesson: "No servant can serve TWO masters…" (Luke 16:13). The two covenants are not even in "according" with one another—they are not to be "unequally yoked together," seeing that they are not equal. If you want to be a New Testament Christian, then you need to learn and know what the New Testament is all about.
THE OLD COVENANT VERSUS THE NEW COVENANT
Here is the most concise Scriptural description of the Old and New Testament that I can give you:
"For the Law was given by Moses [that would be the OLD Covenant], but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ [that would be the NEW Covenant]" (John 1:17).
Law is good, but grace and truth is better. Grace and truth is a much more demanding and much higher calling. If you aspire to be among the "chosen" you must learn what the New Covenant really is.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE MOSAIC LAW?
Can boys become men on their mother’s milk? Neither can men become spiritually mature on things of childhood. Paul said when he was a child, he thought and acted as a child, but when he became a man, he said he put away childish things. The Christian Church today refuses to put away childish things. Here is the purpose for the Law of Moses in the Church:
"Wherefore the law was [it was not past tense for Paul] our schoolmaster [Gk: tutor or guardian] to BRING US UNTO CHRIST, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come [faith HAS now come] we are NO LONGER under a schoolmaster [the law of Moses]" (Gal. 3:24-25).
How is it that all the educated theologians with all their PhD’s can’t understand this simple analogy. The law—the law of Moses, was our "schoolmaster." It WAS, it isn’t any more. Why not? Because mature adults are no longer children. We have all had schoolmaster in our youth. We were under them, subject to them, disciplined by them, taught by them. I am now 62 years old. Am I still under my grade school teachers? Of course not. Do I, however, try to remember the things I learned from my teacher? Why yes, of course. But as a man I am now subject to higher authorities. A person will never acquire a college degree if he never gets out of grade school.
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat
GODSown1:
Thanks Kat,
I think I just need to Pray more & meditate as much as I can more on this, because one thing I do know is I want to do Right by GOD as much as I can, Because why I keep sayn this is (MATT 5: 17, 19), & there are plenty more scriptures in which JESUS sys, "Keep my 'FATHERS'(GOD) commands".
much muchLOVE!! Pera
ps. Or are them scriptures stating "All to Keep the FATHERS commands", just dont mean what they say?? Well I think thats how Ray answers most questions on scripture lol!
GODSown1:
um! Hi again,
What about the Sabbath?? GOD said to remember it & Keep it Holy, generation after generation after generation ( isnt this morealess saying forever?) or ages upon ages? hmm...
muchLOVE!! Pera
Falconn003:
Pera
There seems to be a growing trend, where your questions are being answered by the excerts out of L. Ray Smith papers, written for the very same purpose to answer these questions and many more that will take form in your thoughts.
A litttle more effort on your part to read these articles will do you a spiritual wealth of good, should you ever read them, you will not be disappointed. ;)
Rodger
GODSown1:
huh??
oH!! Im so sorry! I thort that this wot this Forum rm was all about asking Questions, 'my Bad', And funny thing was it was Mr L.Ray. Smith whom sent me here, so Im stumped!, so wot if I cant stand reading huh??
muchLOVE!!!!! Pera
ps, Sometimes I wonder about how sum pple in this room DONT!! practice wot they PreaCH!!!
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