Nameless is right about one of them being under the influence of Satan spiritually. The question is which one? Now I don't agree 100 with everything I have read from ray, but I believe he is much closer to the truth, Nameless is. So in the end it is a question of faith. I think rays faith is truer to the word of god then Nameless is.
Also I wonder if Nameless has read
Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.