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Luke 17:20
josh:
Kat,
I was home sick yesterday, so I had alot of free time to study =)
How was the study yesterday? Sorry, I missed you guys.
Josh
Kat:
Hi Josh,
Ray said you weren't well :(
It was the regulars. And we had an interesting topic about dates to remember. I'm afraid it showed my lack of knowledge there a bit.
Well now we can all have a better frame of reference of the time line of Biblical events.
April 1, 2007 Bible study
http://bible-truths.com/audio/4-01-07_Part1.mp3
http://bible-truths.com/audio/4-01-07_Part2.mp3
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
josh:
Thanks Kat. :)
YellowStone:
Kat you wrote:
I will agree with you here, Christ will bring the Kingdom with Him when He returns. But you need to understand what the Kingdom is.
:(
This sounds a little harsh my sister. :)
The meaning as supplied by Strongs does not refference the world Realm or any other word that denotes the same.
Kingdom basileia {bas-il-i'-ah} [932] Strongs
1) royal power, kingship, dominion, rule
a) not to be confused with an actual kingdom but
rather the right or authority to rule over a kingdom
b) of the royal power of Jesus as the triumphant Messiah
c) of the royal power and dignity conferred on Christians
in the Messiah's kingdom
2) a kingdom, the territory subject to the rule of a king
3) used in the N.T. to refer to the reign of the Messiah
This is the second time I have posted this definition, why is it wrong?
I did find the following that seems to support the definition uou provided.
Basileia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Basileia (an Ancient Greek word meaning royal palace) may refer to:
a) The royal palace, or citadel, of Atlantis, as described by the Greek philosoper Plato in the Critias
b) The Kingdom of God (basileia tou theou), or Kingdom of Heaven, in Christian theology
c) Basileia, Zeus's maid in the play The Birds by Aristophanes
Kat, I believe you are choosing to see only the differences and not the similarities concerning our views.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone should be loving Me, he will be keeping My word, and My Father will be loving him, and We shall be coming to him and making an abode with him."
"Making an abode" does not mean bringing the entire realm of what many consider another dimmension or state. It is not the "realm" that is important, because it is merely the container. :) Christ did not say, "we will bring heaven with us and make you a container of heaven"
Perhaps the definition of Realm will help.
noun: the domain ruled by a king or queen
noun: a knowledge domain that you are interested in or are communicating about
noun: a domain in which something is dominant
Realm refers to the domain, but not the King. God will be dominant in us, we will be the "Kingdom", because God will be within us, all of his royal power, his kingship, dominion and rule. :)
God is everywhere, everthing is in God, we are in the Spirit of God. We exist because of God.
Kat, please let us not become devided due to schematics.
I agree with your Scripture from Acts:
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 and said, "Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!"
"the heavens" is the realm; however, God and Jesus bith are the power, the glory, rulers of this this realm (or domain) which the rule.
I believe we are saying the same thing yet differ on the meaning of one word, Realm. :)
Much thanks to you Kat,
Love,
Darren
Kat:
Hi Darren,
I was not trying to be harsh, I am sorry you feel offended.
But I think we are looking at this subject somewhat differently.
But this seems to be turning into a debate.
Let's just leave it as it is, this has been discussed enough :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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