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iris:
What we also have to consider here is that maybe every one's eyes haven't been opened up yet to see. Everyone is not at the same place.

This has been a really good thread and I thank you all for sharing your thoughts.  :)


Iris

Lacey23:
Wow, I'm impressed at all the knowledge you guys have. This has been a huge help seeing people's insights on the difference and similarities of the words Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God. I was confused, didn't know if it was the same or if it was different. Thank you guys so much for all the info you guys sent. I guess God hasn't opened my heart to really understand the subject yet but at least he got me curious. That's a start. :)   You know i've been battling thoughts from within that I had problems with the religions' belief of a HELL. Satan, and all the literal terms they use to scare people into doing what htey want. I've always hated the idea of where God damns 99 percent to a literal hell fire for all eternity when only 1 percent makes it. It kind of makes God look bad big time.  there are sciptures where it says, God will help you if you love him, obey him, etc.  How can people love him, and obey him if their hearts aren't opened to do so? It kind ofmakes it sound like it's your fault that your heart isn't open to accept that or do what God wants you to do. It's kind of cruel and to point death or torture in anyone's face if they dont' accept God is immoral. I've always had a problem with that kind of God. If that was the God who acted like that. I wouldn't be serving him. If he is the one who has a grand plan to SAVE ALL MANKIND, bascially bec he loves us and wants us as family then that's the God i want to love and serve. not the other one that religions out there are teaching.  it digust me how they abuse that gift. you know?  I was thinking, maybe God meant, that the kingdom of God is among us, as of in saying, that the kingdom of God is here and available to come into existance if we all repent from our sins and live in harmony together. What do you guys think?

Denise (Lacey)

Redbird:
I think that is a great thought, Lacey.

Lisa

YellowStone:
Lacy you wrote; :)

I was thinking, maybe God meant, that the kingdom of God is among us, as of in saying, that the kingdom of God is here and available to come into existance if we all repent from our sins and live in harmony together. What do you guys think?
Stacy I think what you state connects great with what Paul said.

Rom 1:19  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
Rom 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

What has been made known to us so that we are without excuse? :)  The invisible "things" of him, like his eternal power and Godhead (divine nature.) This fits exactly with the base definition of Kingdom as presented by Strongs, which are his: Royal Power, Kingship, Dominion and Rule :)

So, if we substitute the word Kingdom in the following Scripture with: Eternal Power, Divine Nature, Kingship, Dominion and Rule, would the intent behind the Scripture be lost or aided?

Mat 6:33 But seek ye first God's eternal power, divine nature, kingship, dominion, rule and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

What things will be added to us? Why the all of the above which is of course the Kingdom of God. We will become more temperate, loving and compassionate. We will begin to loose our old carnal, self centered ways. :)

It seems that the Kingdom of God is in each of us to a varying degree and is becoming more evident everyday. :)

I hope this helps your understanding a little.

Your brother in Christ,
Darren

rocky:
Rom 14:17 for the kingdom of God is not food and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in holy spirit.

Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed "in us".

1Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; THAT, WHEN his glory shall be revealed, YE~ may be GLAD also with EXCEEDING JOY~ 

CHRIST IN US IS OUR HOPE OF GLORY


2Peter 1:19 We have also a MORE SURE word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a DARK PLACE, UNTIL the day dawn, and THE DAY STAR ARISE in YOUR HEARTS 

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