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DWIGHT:
Good and Evil
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Hi everyone,
Lately I've been thinking about the tree of good and evil as it pertains to our own lives. This tree has the same roots...both good and evil. Ray has pointed out that we can never know life without knowing good and evil, because we never had anything to compare life with other than good and evil. This tree is a type of the law, even so the law was not given until centuries later. As the law was our schoolmaster, so is good and evil. God teaches us from this good and evil in our own personal lives. And if we can't learn by the good, He'll teach us by the evil. God can turn our blessings into a curse, and He can turn our curse into blessings. Most of Christianity thinks that wealth, health, strength and talent are blessings, and for sure they can be, but through disobedience they can become a curse. Yet God takes pain, want, sorrow and death and turns what appears to be a curse into a blessing. God has never changed, Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever. This tree of the knowledge of good and evil is still relevant in our lives today. If we don't learn one way, we will learn another way. Just thinking out loud.
In Him,
Dwight
mrsnacks:
So why are we put here to learn this? On the surface this question may appear silly, but I just wanted to hear your comment. Why all this trouble we have to go through to learn ? Why is this necessary ? Thanks.
PKnowler:
This is an interesting subject.
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,
Gen 2:9 And out of the earth the Lord made every tree to come, delighting the eye and good for food; and in the middle of the garden, the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Gen 2:16 And the Lord God gave the man orders, saying, You may freely take of the fruit of every tree of the garden:
Gen 2:17 But of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you may not take; for on the day when you take of it, death will certainly come to you.
Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
It was God's intention for them to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. It was a part of the process of them becoming like God in knowing good and evil. It is interesting that both the knowledge of good and evil comes from the same tree!
God doesn't want us eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil- it produces religion.
He wants us eating from the tree of life!
~Paula :)
DWIGHT:
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. Heb. 2:14-15
We were born in the bondage of sin whether we know it or not, and the wages of sin is death. Satan has the power of death, so it is through His death and our death with Him that we destroy the devil. This is God's purpose for us that through death we might know life. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit." Jn. 12:24
In Him,
Dwight
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: Dwight on April 06, 2007, 04:20:50 PM --- Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. Heb. 2:14-15
We were born in the bondage of sin whether we know it or not, and the wages of sin is death. Satan has the power of death, so it is through His death and our death with Him that we destroy the devil. This is God's purpose for us that through death we might know life. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit." Jn. 12:24
In Him,
Dwight
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This is an interesting way to look at it Dwight. But I see nothing good being gained by fighting Satan at his own game. :)
1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Satan abhors life, he distains that our faith in God and His promise is unwaivering. Death has no hold on us.
Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Christ died so that we need never die.
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
So I really do not think that "we help" in any way bringing about the death of Satan by our death, but rather by our life. :)
Some of us may actually never "sleep"
1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
I think I know what you are saying Dwight, but I am not going to take any credit for it. The Ransom was paid by Christ and Satan knows it. :)
One final point, God does not take away blessings in order to curse us; it is only carnal man who would think such thoughts. :) For I am sure the flower does not feel cursed when its glory and beauty begins to fade and wither. Neither should we; rather we should rejoice in the blessings we were given and thankful for that was learned. Seasons change, as will circumstances, yet God is with us still.
Rom 5:3 And not only [so], but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Please do not think I am picking on you brother Dwight, I merely wanted to offer another way of looking at all you said.
Love in Chrit,
Your brother,
Darren
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