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Who is my brother? NO REALLY
YellowStone:
Arcturus,
This is becoming quite petty. ::)
You wrote: He authorises and instructs evil to His Plan and Purpose which for me is far higher than the act of "using" rather than directing and instructing.
So if "I" authorize and instruct an employee to perform a task am I not "using" that employee to perform that task? Of course I am, but I feel you are personifying "evil." So, I will follow your logic and bow to political correctness, and modify my statement.
Even though by your own words, you state quite correctly that God indeed does use [mankinds carnal desire for] evil for the purpose of creating man into his own image.
God instructs Satan for we know he instructed Satan in his dealings with Job, not sure if God ever instructed Evil ???
You also stated: "For me it is beneath God to USE EVIL."
But we are told:
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
If God is not "Using" evil (be it in the evil desires of carnal man he created also) then why did he create it? :D
Oh and you skirted the question of whether or not you can see the good in the evil that God instructs and authorises. :)
This has to be the pettiest response I have ever written. ;D ;D ;D
Love to you Arcturus, truly!
Darren
ciy:
Kat
Maybe we are talking semantics, but I just felt a need to encourage myself and others that when you strive for Christ you can get back into Babylon that way.
We are to rest in Christ. We strive in the flesh.
Please do not be offended by my post, but I believe we must be on guard always to encourage each other to stay strong and faithful. That we must die daily. Come out of Babylon daily until we are out of our flesh completely.
We want to get the law into our hearts and not have to think about it in the flesh, but let it be a natural desire of the heart. If I do it in the flesh it is very easy for me to stay in the flesh. To purge it out of my heart I have to expose my sin to myself and others so that I can get rid of that desire to care what others think. When I care what others think then I hide it and cover it up by being good in the flesh. Let it all hang out for others to see.
A good example of what I am saying is that you hear that some people who are on the run from the law are relieved when they are finally caught. They are tired of hiding the truth. Tired of having to put on a front. I think we have all had these types of experiences to where we are finally relieved when something is revealed to all concerned. That is what I feel we are to do. If I have to make myself be a good husband, then I am really not a good husband even though I may appear to my wife and others that I am a good husband.
I hope this communicates.
Arcturus,
I am not sure exactly why I cannot communicate this so I will quit trying before I break something.
I would like for you to know that I certainly do not feel that Christ and Satan are the same they are the opposites, but God uses this type of opposites throughout scripture. I was referring to the brass serpent Moses had in the wilderness for people to look to in order to stop the snakes poison from hurting them. This is a foreshadowing of Christ.
I will recede back to the sidelines and hope that you are not offended. I really believe if you are not offended by this you will be bless.
CIY
PS- Thanks Darren
Kat:
Hi ciy,
I think we may be looking at this from different perspectives.
It is good to encourage one another, as you said.
--- Quote ---Please do not be offended by my post, but I believe we must be on guard always to encourage each other to stay strong and faithful. That we must die daily. Come out of Babylon daily until we are out of our flesh completely
--- End quote ---
No offense taken :)
I am looking at God bringing the few chosen, to where sin no longer has dominion over us. I know I will never be totally perfect and mature while in the flesh, but you can come to a point where you are not giving into every pull of the flesh.
I will just give a few emails where Ray talks about getting to this point to where we can have victory over sin.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2504.0.html -------
Likewise people think they "keep" the ten commandments by following the OUTLINE. No wonder God says, "O that there would be SUCH A HEART in them." If they would have had a heart of flesh instead of stone, they would have known as Paul instructed us that, "For we know that THE LAW IS SPIRITUALLY" (Rom. 7:14). Oh really? Do we really know that? I know people who know more facts about the Bible that most would ever learn in three lifetimes, and yet, THEY DON'T KNOW that "the law is SPIRITUAL."
Ask God to give you a heart of flesh (by which is meant a heart of spirit, as opposed to one of stone), and you will be walking in the Spirit.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2465.0.html---------
Dear Garrett:
Yours is a common frustration. Many write me with similar struggles
with the flesh after coming into a knowledge of the Truth. I did the
same. I left my First Love and went back into the world, all the while
knowing that I couldn't conquor my flesh. I was so happy for what I
'preceived to be "greasy grace." Thank God for grace, because I knew
I wasn't going to be saved without it.
I still believe that that part of it is true (about saved by grace only), but
I also know that it is possible when God gets ready, to conquor your
major sins so that sin no longer "reigns over you." You will not be totally
perfect and mature, but you will not be giving into every pull of the flesh,
for sexual gratification, lust for money, power, good looks, eternal youth,
perfect health, interesting job, travel and excitement, etc., etc., etc. You
will learn to enjoy the simple pleasure of life like, breathing, sleeping,
walking, talking to your wife, eating a pizza, and going to bed early on a
Saturday night.
God will make you really WANT to stop sinning, long before you will
ACTUALLY stop sinning. It's part of the struggle; part of the good
fight of faith; part of overcoming the flesh. Don't become discouraged, as
God WILL SEE YOUR THROUGH!
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1026.0.html--------
Dear Jonathan:
There is no magic bullet that will save you today from all your sins and problems. As you have stated YOU have tried and tried and failed time and again. ONLY GOD can save you from all of your sins. I can teach you the truths of the Scriptures, but overcoming the sins of the flesh is something that only God can do for you. I know the feeling. I have been there; done that. But God is faithful, and if you continue to hate your flesh and your sins and cry out to God, He will hear you. So be encouraged. Many have gone before you and have obtained the victory over sin. We are never totally free from all sin, but we do reach the place where sin no longer has dominion over us, and that is a great feeling. Don't do ANYTHING that gives you a guilty conscience. Don't GO anywhere, don't DO anything, don't SAY anything for which you feel guilty or wouldn't want your wife, children and parents to see you doing. People condemn me and say all kinds of hateful lies about me on a daily basis. But my conscience is CLEAR before God, and so I don't have to answer to all my hate-filled detractors. Take God with you wherever you go and your whole life will change.
God be with you,
Ray
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mercy, peace, and love
Kat
Redbird:
Hi Arcturus,
I understand when you say you are seeing the tree of life, I also want to spend less and less time at the tree of good and evil, and more and more time with the tree of life! ;) :)
Peace and Love,
Lisa
Deborah-Leigh:
Darren
Luke 7 : 2 ...The centurion sent some friends to Him, (Jesus) saying Lord, do not trouble Yourself, for I am not sufficiently worthy to have you come under my roof; 7. Neither did I consider myself worthy to come to You. But just speak a word, and my servant boy will be healed. 8. For I also am a man daily subject to AUTHORITY, with soldiers under me. And I say to one, Go, and he goes and to another Come, and he comes; and to my bond servant, Do this, and he does it. 9. Now when Jesus heard this, HE MARVELED AT HIM, and He turned and said to the crowd that followed Him, I tell you, not even IN ALL ISRAEL have I found such great FAITH AS THIS.
The Centurion KNEW and UNDERSTOOD God's SOVEREIGNTY and POWER. The BEGINNING of Wisdom is AS such reverential awe of God THAT JESUS reveals was the greatest faith HE has witnessed in ALL ISRAEL.
Pretty petty stuff hey Darren? (Rhetorical question!) Your evaluation of my post Darren is derogatory and has no foundation in the Scriptures.
Lisa~! thank you for your likeminded fellowship of encouragement. Perhaps Jesus would also say to you, Great Faith have you who know the Sovereignty of God. Certainly Ray Smith is also such a one as this!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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