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gmik:
Thanks Flipper and Welcome to the Forum. Luke 3:17 takes on a whole new meaning when you know what winnowing is. Very interesting.
Arc, I am so glad you are always uplifting and helpful, even thru your own trials. The Lord has given you much wisdom.
Our brothers & sisters on the Forum-family, have indeed their share of trials-so many have and are going thru so much.
Even tho these trials are in His Master plan, we need to love and support each other in prayer 24/7.
Deborah-Leigh:
Dwight
You and your family are in my thoughts often. It is always a pleasure to see your posts in the Forum. I share with you an appointment to trial coming up for me in the near future as do you regarding the May appointment for your wife together with all the other tests and conditions coming against you and separating you from what unimportant and gathering you into what is important! The learning is painfully difficult I can attest to that!
The Scripture you posted is a personal favourite of mine! It has left me the thought that once the King called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, to come out, they left the flames and the King of Glory who was walking with them, to return to the realms of Babylon! I would prefer to stay in the company of the King, unbound and in communion with HIM and not come out of HIS consuming fire to be promoted in the earth kingdoms of man.
I think this is where we depart from the Old Testament into the New and where we are fed not with Manor from heaven daily but with the bread of life unceasingly in our walk with Christ as we walk in the atmosphere of HIS consuming fire without one hair on our heads being harmed! I believe this is the conclusion to which HE is leading us as we look ahead to those appointments that are as the fiery furnace into which our friends Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were bound to enter but were loosed once inside!
Let us rejoice Brother.
Peace to you and thank you for the post and the Scriptures you shared.
Peace to you and your family
Arcturus :)
Deborah-Leigh:
I thank Our Lord for you G!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
YellowStone:
Dwight, you included a very insightful response to the wonderful Scripture you posted. :)
You wrote:
It seems the closer your walk with the Lord is, the hotter the firery furnance becomes. But as they were in the furnance, the Son of God was with them. Because they were faithful and did not give in to the flesh nor bowed down and worship any idols of the heart, this is what happend to them...
I truly believe that your reference of "It seems the closer your walk with the Lord is, the hotter the firery furnance becomes." is where, the rubber (our walk) leaves the road (this world)
The story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego is a wonderful example of faith overcoming physical trials. Their faith was so strong, that the flames and heat were as NOTHING! :) Less than nothing and here is why I believe this to be so.
Could Nebuchadnezzar nullify their faith in God, Could anyone? :D
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:37 ... in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
We will only feel the heat whist ever our focus is not 100% percent on God. Let's look at what Paul asked again. "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?" The answer is simple, our own self aided by our self-righteous ego. ???
It is 'this' carnal self that feels the heat and persecution. But it need not be so when we walk with God. David felt only comfort when he walked through "his" deathly valley.
Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Likewise, did Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego feel any discomfort? No Sir, they did not. :) I am sure when asked, they could have answered: "What fiery furnace!" :)
In conclusion, I would like to add that world will not change, for it is oneself, who through faith and the gracious love of God that changes. The trials, tribulations and fiery furnaces do not go away; however, they come as nothing. For the shield of faith will protect us.
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And we can indeed begin to live a glimpse of the life that is to come. :)
Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
Psa 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:
With love....
Your brother in Christ,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
Likewise, did Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego feel any discomfort? No Sir, they did not. I am sure when asked, they could have answered: "What fiery furnace!" Quote from Darren.
I can only agree with this comment if it was meant in HINDSIGHT compared to the glory that lay ahead and the promotions that were received once the fiery furnace was left behind the bound up abused and persecuted Shadrach Meshach and Abednego. Like wise I think the suffering we experience in this world is felt like the furnace that is described that is spiritual. We suffer spiritually emotionally mentally and physically and this story captures the symbolic meaning of this for me. If comparisons are to be made then this is what comes to mind for me.
Hebrews 12 : 2...He (Jesus) for the joy of obtaining the prize that was set before Him, endured the cross, despising and ignoring the shame, and is now seated at the right hand of the throne of God.
2 Cor 4 : 17 For our light, momentary affliction this slight distress of the passing hour is ever more and more abundantly preparing and producing and achieving for us an Ionian weight of glory beyond all measure, excessively surpassing all COMPARISONS and calculations, a vast and transcendent glory and blessedness never to cease.
Our trials or anyone's trials are felt and suffered and yes, AFTERWARDS yes they may appear as nothing as the Scriptures promise....but this AFTERWARDS is only once Christ returns to wipe away all tears. As for me, my trials continue and it is not funny or trivial but is a way into the Kingdom of God for the passage into the Kingdom of God is via our trials and testings and judgement upon the house of God now.
May be one day I might say...what trials....compared to the suffering of Christ! my trials are certainly as NOTHING! but still I feel my testing and my chastisements and I pray that I never rebel against my corrections that hopefully will diminish into nothing to bring me to the day where Darren believes that Shadrach Meshack and Abednego can say...what furnace!
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
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