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Does Mystery Bablyon symbolized Jerusalem or Christendom????
seminole:
I believe that God does work in us "for the good" but we have to have a willing heart, spirit and body to fully live our lives for God and be used for His good. Not that we will live this life without sin. It's an imperfect world.
Seminole
YellowStone:
Seminole wrote:
I believe that God does work in us "for the good" but we have to have a willing heart, spirit and body to fully live our lives for God and be used for His good. Not that we will live this life without sin. It's an imperfect world.
Seminole, by whose will are we saved? By whose choice will we know God?
Many are shocked when they recieve the truth, so shocked that they cannot see. :)
Yet, it is not for them to decide to even understand.
Luk 12:25 And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit?
Kind of say's everything don't you think. Choosing to have a willing heart, though commendable, is nothing as long as God has not introduced you to his Son.
Jhn 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
God brings us to Christ, whether we choose to or not. :) Only then we we recieve the Spirit of Truth; until this time all the words and intent were empty. Empty in Spirit in Truth. :)
Love in Christ,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
Seminole writes (quotes in italics):
I believe that God does work in us "for the good" but .......
....That word but...BUT...cancells everything that precedes it for me. Like I love you BUT or I believe this is true BUT....see what I mean? BUT is a huge negator that indicates a CHANGE IN DIRECTION. BUT...and then.... here comes the turning point AWAY from God is Sovereign and that there is no FREE WILL...Quote...BUT
we have to have a willing heart, spirit and body to fully live our lives for God. See what I mean?
Who do you think causes us to HAVE a willing heart spirit and body to fully live our lives for God? Who actually IS the author and finisher of our faith? Is it US or it it The Author and Finisher of our faith? Who is in charge? Is it our willing heart uncaused by the Author or is it the willing heart made pliable in the hands of the potter? I think it is the latter not the former. So if we are to have a willing heart it IS a gift from God not an entitlement or choice! Big difference!
and be used for His good.
To be used for HIS GOOD is blasphemy is it not? If we ARE used it is for OUR good not HIS good surely because GOD IS ALREADY GOOD and He alone IS good needing nothing to add to Himself but by extension to create from Himself children in His image. Now THAT IS NOT ONLY GOOD IT IS GREAT!
Matt 19 : 17 There is only One Who is good perfectly and essentially - God. Would God use us for HIS GOOD....I don't think so!
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
nmendes:
I have yet to receive any responses in reference to my second question. As Christians living under the new covenant should we be supporting the Israel and Jerusalem countries???? Plenty of televised preachers are doing just that. However, is this scriptural???
gmik:
Jerusalem is a city in Israel. Do you mean support them as far as our government or do you mean churches supporting them or do you mean little ole me to send someone over there money???
Evangelical Christianity supports Israel as the heart of God's eyes. They believe we are entwined w/ them spiritually and prophetically.
I do not. Israel is what it is. A country that is like any other. They are not "special" to God. He doesn't have some "big" plan for them that is different than other countries. They will have to learn as all nations on the earth about the Truth at the Great White Throne Judgement and learn about Righteousness in the Lake of Fire.
Ray has much material on this, so I didn't include scripture references. Trust me, Ray has plenty of scripture w/ his teachings.
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